I understand.......just asked to clarify for anyone else who might have read the comment and did not grasp your thought.
Help me out.........
You said-
"That still leaves us with Heb 6, 10 and What John said though."
Who is the John and Are you referring to Hebrews 6:10 or Hebrews chapter 6 AND chapter 10?
I just put the chapters in because switching to "mysword" on tablet back and forth is rough. PC's and E-Sword are quick and far more efficient.
All I am saying Major is we have scriptures that do not fit the OSAS mold. Why I said that I try to stay away from Doctrines of men, and lots of these Doctrines attempt to fit all scripture into the doctrine making them all absolutes.
Remember the thread about the Sabbath? All scriptures seem to point to keeping the Sabbath despite what the scripture said.
1) We judge ourslves or God Judges us that we be not condemned with the World. The World is on their way to Hell.
This verse would suggest that refusing to be corrected, ends badly.
2) Paul turned one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that his "spirit" may be saved.
What happens if the man does not change (He did repent and was full of sorrow praise God) but was he in danger of hell?
3) Jesus said, Rev 3:5 kjva He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and
I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
What happens if you don't overcome? Some have made up a "lambs book of life and a seperate book of life to explain this away.
4) Heb 6:4-8 kjva 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
We could use what Paul said that if anyone works abide not (man produced thorns instead of fruit) the man will suffer loss but still saved as by fire.
We have to keep all scriptures in mind.......... He is Neigh unto cursing....... that means close to it.
We can do nothing to bring the person back, though we can't, it does not say he can't repent and start producing good fruit.
5) Heb 10:26-29 kjva 26
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
ONE SIN, because the ONE SIN is mentioned below.
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and
hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
The sin was counting the blood covenant a unholy thing and not worthy enough to save. Going back to other gods
6) John wars there is a sin unto death........ All unrighteousness is sin, but there is ONE sin unto death........... Stay away from idols. Same sin someone could commit in Hebrews 10.
So instead of believing some blanket OSAS doctrine of man. We need to understand there are scriptures that point to the fact man is still responsible to do what they are told and not leave Jesus for some other god, like Allah.
We are to judge ourselves.
We are to trust in God and overcome.
We are to stick with God, being thankful for our Salvation (born again)
We need to be aware that continuing in sin, may end badly. As Paul turned one over to Satan to save the man's spirit.