I never said........."You forbid me to say anything"?????First, how did I forbid you to do anything? I have no control over your posts. Second I will stand by my statement.
I never said this was possible to keep it, and that is the point. But one must have a standard to know they need a Savior, and I believe TC is that universal standard.
Romans 3:20
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 5:20–21
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
What law did the gentile know in their hearts? Possibly not to kill, steal, lie, to respect parents. Some of these were found in the
Code of Hammurabi so they were somewhat universal by the time Moses wrote them.
Romans 2:12–14 (KJV 1900)
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
I think I made it clear, that we need Jesus because we could not keep the law, with this statement.
Please do not think that I am being argumentative with you in any way. Just asking and clarifying your comments as a lot of people who read what we post are not as educated in theology as your are.
So then, You said............
" But one must have a standard to know they need a Savior, and I believe TC is that universal standard."
What is "TC"???
Then if I may ask.....isn't what you are saying more of a philosophical question than anything else.
I am just asking.....if "knowing I need a standard to be saved, does that not imply DOING something to begin with".?
What I believe is that no one needs to know anything to be saved. Now I know what you are saying be living up to a standard, what I am saying is Jesus died for my sins, which means I must believe I am a sinner. That is all I need to know.
Do you think that one might need conviction of sin to know that they need a Saviour.