Women in the church

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  1. Adam was..... Christ IS.... the Head, of men and women (His Church); not one made of hands, but one made without hands. His temple is a spiritual house; not one of flesh and blood.
    Adam was (past tense), Christ IS (present tense), even until this very day.
    Why would God give a woman messages, not only for the church, but for the entire world, if God never intended for her to speak these messages forth?
    What He gives you in darkness, speak ye in light; what ye hear in your ear, preach from the rooftops. Amen
    I suppose preaching for God from the rooftops, is still better than being suppressed, oppressed, depressed in man's house.
    Submit to the ordinances made within this land and in their house; observe, and do; but do not do as they do, for they lay heavy burdens, and pained to be delivered, upon us and will not with one little finger do the same they have ask us to do; making to themselves a greater demon of hell than they are themselves.

    All praise, glory and honor be unto God. Amen
    I believe both has taken a serious bashing today; may be a good time to pray, asking God for His guidance in this matter.
     
  2. The guidance is very clear in scriptures on this issue. I believe Major explained it very well. It is only when you decide to use human reason to justify your belief that perverts the truth and causes division. Gods people HEAR Gods Word and will humbly submit to it.. Glory be to Christ Alone
     
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  3. It is human reason that has been teaching over too many years that women cannot serve God in the way He leads them, according to their gifts and callings. That perverts His truth and that is what brings division, and actually maintains a division in churches where people follow blindly and are too afraid to question.
     
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  4. When no one is given all the Truth at once; no one knows all the Truth.
    Just receive wrong and move on; praise God for ALL THINGS.
    YES, all praise, glory and honor be unto GOD. Amen
     
  5. We each have a piece and we are each a member; praise God for it all; HE is in me, I am in HIM, and we go unto the Father. Wait, it is an eternal thing, everlasting, and full of Love; not a physical, canal, gender, race, flesh lusting, strong arming opinions. I praise God for you ALL. Yes, God had to use a donkey, because flesh (a man) was too high minded to listen and went mad. And Jonah, running from God gets himself and entire ship crew in danger, thrown overboard, and swallowed up by a fish, and spit out. And then was he obedient to God. Praise God I am part of the vine, and no one can pluck me from His hand. Amen. If He says speak I shall speak.
     
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  6. Question: when the Spirit is guiding you to Truth, are you always pleased with the answers?
    How often are you displeased with the results? Are you ever upset with the leading?
    Or do we take these unwanted feelings as a sign that they must be ungodly or man's teaching?

    The litmus test is agreement with the Word. Not what may offend our sensibilities.
     
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  7. I have taken this issue to God and asked earnestly for His direction and His leading to the correct way of thinking. He answered me amazingly and distinctly, so that there is no question. Therefore, I am satisfied with His answer and cannot doubt or look back to where he has taken me from. I rejoice in that surety in knowing that He hears our prayers and is aware of our desire for truth, and He reaches down and shows us what the truth is about any matter so that we can leave those queries behind and continue in our walk with Him---on to better and greater things.

    Hebrews 6:1-3
    So let us stop going over the basic teachings about Christ again and again. Let us go on instead and become mature in our understanding. Surely we don’t need to start again with the fundamental importance of repenting from evil deeds and placing our faith in God. 2 You don’t need further instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3 And so, God willing, we will move forward to further understanding.

    There is a foundation that must be laid in the life of every believer who desires to go on to maturity. There is the instruction there to advance in our faith---move on beyond the elementary teachings of our faith---toward maturity in Him.


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  9. It would be great if you would take care to use quote tags!

    Anyhoo...this is elementary stuff, and that so many dig their heels in shows they are stuck... and may prefer to stay there.

    I am not a disobedient child, so you can withdraw your little pointer, there. God is great and awesome---and FAITHFUL to pour His answers into us as we seek Him!

    I am grateful to the Father for His amazing provision to me of the truth of the matter. No longer do I wonder about it, uncertain, but now I have the confidence that comes from hearing from the Spirit of God in His word!
     
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  10. Dig our heels in and are stuck? Ok lol! Pride of the worldly feminist movement is what crept in and is stuck. It is the lack of love for the truth of Gods Word which is being shown through compromise of a false love.. Love," does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth".. 1cor13:6. Truth is what matters in Christ according to HIS WORD! This is very clear in scriptures. It is only those with the worldly feminist agenda that seek something different. Submission to Gods Word is the fruit of a believer! Gods Spirit bears witness to His Word.. Not opposing or contradicting it.. But unless the Lord should be merciful to grant those who oppose His truth repentance, they will continue to bring in destructive apostate teachings. Let God alone be glorified in Christ Jesus
     
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  11. Praise God for you brother,
    I am not Jew nor Greek nor American
    I am not bond nor free
    I am not male nor FEMALE; I am spirit.
    And, I hear the spirit that speaks. Take heed that the spirit that is in you be not darkness; Luke 11:35
    I do not oppose anything, anyone has said; and I am not offended by anything, anyone has said.
    Praise God, HE knows me, HE knows my heart; and my heart does bleed for you. I will pray for you.
    So sad that one look upon the appearance (or gender) of another and do judge. I praise God for you.
    For I am quite certain that no man, woman, or kid, or beast is able to pluck me from my Father's hand. Yes, I am quite certain.
    ALL praise, glory and honor be unto God. Amen
     
  12. Praise God for you brother,
    I am not Jew nor Greek nor American
    I am not bond nor free
    I am not male nor FEMALE; I am spirit.
    And, I hear the spirit that speaks. Take heed that the spirit that is in you be not darkness; Luke 11:35
    I do not oppose anything, anyone has said; and I am not offended by anything, anyone has said.
    Praise God, HE knows me, HE knows my heart; and my heart does bleed for you. I will pray for you.
    So sad that one look upon the appearance (or gender) of another and do judge. I praise God for you.
    For I am quite certain that no man, woman, or kid, or beast is able to pluck me from my Father's hand. Yes, I am quite certain.
    ALL praise, glory and honor be unto God. Amen
     
  13. But my child....you have the whole truth. Do you think that there is going to be an announcement coming from a preacher or denominational head ???? It is written down for you in the Word of God and does not come from the minds of men who want the Scriptures to match what they want it to say instead of accepting it and obeying it as presented.

    It really is just that simple.
     
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  14. BINGO! We have a winner! Amen brother, Amen. I love you Euphemia, but right is right and Coop is right.
     
  15. You might want to make real sure that the voice you hear as a spirit is from God. The Bible has a lot to say about hearing voices and how Satan discusses himself as an angel of light to fool, and trap and kill.
     
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  16. Wonderful words sister, but you did not answer the question asked.
     
  17. I will pray for you brother.
     
  18. Sorry, but I am not speaking out of pride, but of the truth. Your unmannerly response is, however.

    God's word and Jesus' purposes for His Church have been thwarted by people who have been undeniably influenced by the ancient cultures of the Greek and Roman Empires, whose tentacles extend down the ages to this 21st century.

    Jesus set in motion by elevating woman, how He wanted His Body to be, but she has done poorly in this area. The world actually shows up the Church in this regard, although the world has a harsh, crass view and takes it too far. The Church has it in Her, through the Spirit of Jesus Christ to do it better!


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  19. Not really. Most definitely, I can tell by the tenor of the responses here, as well as them being entirely personal in their thrust, that what the Lord has most faithfully shown me through His word is right, and good.
     
  20. Yes I did, and well, too!
     
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