Covenant Theology isn’t so much a “theology” in the sense of a systematic set of doctrine as it is a framework for interpreting Scripture. It is usually contrasted with another interpretative framework for Scripture called “Dispensational Theology” or "Dispensationalism".Any one else here hold o that view of the scriptures then?
was interested to see that there are some Baptists like myself who are under Covenant theology, as when first saved years ago, all of my fellow baptists seemed to hold to just Dispy only, and those holding to CT had to be Presbartarians!Covenant Theology isn’t so much a “theology” in the sense of a systematic set of doctrine as it is a framework for interpreting Scripture. It is usually contrasted with another interpretative framework for Scripture called “Dispensational Theology” or "Dispensationalism".
Personally I lean toward "right wing Christian terrorist!"
was interested to see that there are some Baptists like myself who are under Covenant theology, as when first saved years ago, all of my fellow baptists seemed to hold to just Dispy only, and those holding to CT had to be Presbartarians!
I have no trouble, with that, as only ones that think go outside orthodoxy would be those into Hyper Dispy!I am of the Dispensationalist catagory. That was the way I was educated and it feels right.
"Redemption side?"so you all basically stick to the Redemption side , Works and Grace side of things when you read your bibles?
I have no trouble, with that, as only ones that think go outside orthodoxy would be those into Hyper Dispy!
And what is called Progressive Dispy seems to be close to CT theology in many areas also!
I think that we would see it more as the church today is Spiritual Israel!The two difference that I see is that dispensationalism views history as a series of dispensations, (Time) while covenant theology views history as one continuous story.
Second, and I think the most important is that dispensationalism believes that the church is a separate entity from Israel, while covenant theology believes that the church is an extension of Israel. IMHO, we need to be careful not to allow CT to morph into "Replacement Theology".
I think that we would see it more as the church today is Spiritual Israel!
I would see God has still having a plan for national Israel, but that right now jews must come thru the New Covenant for salvation, as while some hold to the Jews still having a valid Covenant with God, I do not!I can understand that thinking.
May I say to you because we are of a like mind, just as we become spiritual “sons of Abraham” by faith (Galatians 3:7), so we can be considered “spiritual Israel” when we receive Christ. In the sense that ethnicity and politics have no relationship to salvation, the term spiritual Israel presents no noteworthy problems.
However, Replacement theology, on the other hand, uses the concept of a “spiritual Israel” differently. Replacement theology essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan and that the many promises God made to Israel are fulfilled in the Church instead—Old Testament prophecies are allegorized in order to make them applicable to the church. Replacement theology presents major theological problems
Hello YeshuaFan,while some hold to the Jews still having a valid Covenant with God, I do not!
The Promise of all of their land will be fulfilled at second coming. but right now any Jew who wants to get to heaven and have eternal life now must come thru Lord Jesus into the New Covenant!Hello YeshuaFan,
In my understanding, the covenant between Abraham and YHVH consisted of three separate parts: the promised land, the promise of the descendants, the promise of blessing and redemption.
What event, or perhaps when, do you believe their covenant with YHVH was completed or fulfilled?
I would see God has still having a plan for national Israel, but that right now jews must come thru the New Covenant for salvation, as while some hold to the Jews still having a valid Covenant with God, I do not!
The Promise of all of their land will be fulfilled at second coming. but right now any Jew who wants to get to heaven and have eternal life now must come thru Lord Jesus into the New Covenant!
so you all basically stick to the Redemption side , Works and Grace side of things when you read your bibles?
Fitting any label isn't a descriptor for for me personally. I'm a biblicist-ology....is that a real word?
MM
Fitting any label isn't a descriptor for for me personally. I'm a biblicist-ology....is that a real word?
MM
Yes, Hagee and others are teaching the false doctrine that the Jews and Israel still have a valid Covenant between them and Yahweh!I agree! Some, I even heard John Hagee preach the same thing- that the Jews can keep the Torah and be saved.
NO! NO! NO! and I do not care if the Pope or a resurrected Billy Graham says they can.
They, the Jews must come to Christ in faith to be saved just like every other people!