_____________________________________________Agreed. Which my point was, the verse is not talking about being immersed in the water of baptism at all!!!
Beloved, I take it you are not referring to I Peter, where the seed means the word. Then it must be Jn. 3:5 _ where the Lord says we must be born (give birth, birthed, come out) of water and of the Spirit.
In its context, born in verse 3 is synonymous with conceive; in verse 5, with give birth, or birthed.
The new birth is likened to the natural birth: the conception, and the bringing forth from the womb.
Guideline #3:
"Understand that we live in two realms: the natural realm, and the Spiritual realm.
The spiritual ealm is manifested in the natural realm;
the natural realm attests to the spiritual realm."