You said it...the lie of Satan in the Garden of Eden - ye shall not surely die" this is exactly what you believe. That Adam and Eve did not die!!!! When we know they did. You have believed that lie your self!!
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No you may one "very" questionable point on one random scripture and then reject the rest of the bible and think that honest people will accept your false doctrines? Then try to use the good name of others that would would reject your heresy in complete terms and think you have made a point?
What's so confusing about the Soul and Spirit? Genesis 2:7 PLAINLY tells us that God's Spirit entered a lifeless body and it BECAME a Living Soul. At death, the reverse takes place, and the Living Soul becomes a Dead Soul.
Ok smart guy, tell me the exact location of your soul and how to know the difference between a soulish thought or a spiritual thought..
Brother, I realize that you may be a babe in Christ, seeing how your prideful arrogance is on display, so I would simply say to you that Jesus would rather have us discuss Biblical issues in the spirit of truth and love WITHOUT the accusations of heresy and "rolling eyes" that characterize your posts.No you may one "very" questionable point on one random scripture and then reject the rest of the bible and think that honest people will accept your false doctrines? Then try to use the good name of others that would would reject your heresy in complete terms and think you have made a point?
Ok, first off, we don't possess a soul, but we ARE a soul. The soul is the combination of body and Spirit of God. The combined two PRODUCE a Living Soul. 
Genesis 2:7 "God formed man of the dust of the earth, breathed into his nostrils the Breath of Life and man BECAME a living soul.' You see, God did not "give" man a soul to inhabit within him only to be released and fly away at death, the text says he BECAME a Living Soul.
Secondly, when God gathers back to Himself the breath which he put in His creatures to empower them to live, the body goes back to the earth and the soul ceases to be.
Secondly, when God gathers back to Himself the breath which he put in His creatures to empower them to live, the body goes back to the earth and the soul ceases to be.
I hope you are not implying that Annihilationists are going to hell.
Ok, first off, we don't possess a soul, but we ARE a soul. The soul is the combination of body and Spirit of God. The combined two PRODUCE a Living Soul.
The soul is separate from the body and spirit.
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Again, why do you judge others? Only God knows if sincere error or subborn rebellion resides in the heart of His creatures.
This is all I can see that is at work here, brother.
Both the spirit and soul of a person do not die.
Ok, first off, we don't possess a soul, but we ARE a soul. The soul is the combination of body and Spirit of God. The combined two PRODUCE a Living Soul.
Sorry, wrong again. The human being is a spirit, who possesses a soul and lives in a body.
The text is saying that the soul and spirit CAN BE separated, which happens at death. Paul is simply expressing the wish that the entire being is preserved. Why do you ignore Genesis 2:7, which Paul's words must be aligned with?
Actually, believers can see error and rebellion, too. We have the Spirit of God living in us.
Serious? Do you not see how Genesis 2:7 is so contrary to this new age idea that we are a spirit?
Wow, so you think you are in a position to judge the heart, when "God alone knows the hearts of men?"
You are being led astray by the archaic English, which calls a living person a soul. We have to discern the difference between Old English dialect and what God is actually teaching us in His word. "Soul" in Genesis 2:7 means "creature" or "being" or "person"---not an ethereal entity. Our soul is the sat of the mind, will and emotions---our personality, what makes us individuals.
Jesus declared "for a spirit hath not FLESH AND BONES as ye see me have."
We do not JUDGE the heart, but we are supposed to---even commanded to---judge righteously concerning all things, whether they be truth or lies, and whether they are serving the cause of Christ, or the cause of the enemy.
Now that you've touched on the subject, let's discover about how Christians are to judge.
There is a vital aspect to judging. One of the gifts of the Spirit is the “discerning of spirits”, found in 1 Corinthians 12:10. The Greek word for discernment is, “diakrisis”, which comes from two words: “dia”, meaning “through, between”, and “krino”, meaning, “to judge”. In other words, the Holy Spirit gifts people so that they can make a judgment between two things, as to which right, and which is wrong. The specific gift of “discernment of spirits” involves being supernaturally able to distinguish between a person who is serving the cause of evil spirits, and one who is serving the cause of God. As soon as one says, “ No person has the right to judge”, then that person is actually quenching the Holy Spirit’s gifting of people to make judgments which will edify the church.
To say that we the Church cannot judge a situation or a person in sin is to allow cultural relativism to slip into the church, falling into an unbalanced doctrine of judgment. This is happening more and more now.
The Lord Jesus shows that it is good to “judge with righteous judgment” (John 7:24). We should make judgments based on the yardstick of righteousness as revealed in His Word, which looks beyond mere outward appearances, and are made with the right spirit in heart.
When Jesus said, “Judge not, that you be not judged” (Matthew 7:1), we immediately know what kind of judgment He is referring to there. He cannot mean that we must never make any judgment at all, otherwise we would not be able to fulfill some other scriptural mandates, such as never to allow anyone to deceive us...see Matthew 24:4; Luke 21:8; 2 Thessalonians 2:3; Ephesians 5:6; Colossians 2:8. If only God can judge, as many think, then how will we be able to fulfill the apostle John’s command: “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1). Far from being wrong, judgment is actually a vital part of the Christian armour!
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