Just like sports, hollywood, music and so many other things have become idolatrous worship so is maryism......
John MacArthur is an angry old man, who is quite intellectually inept, if you ask me honestly. I grew up listening to MacArthur, so even though I am not a Calvinist (which is quite the heresy, if you ask me again, that mocks the sacrifice of Christ and turns God into a monster), I know a lot about the theology and about the MacArthurian theology specifically. I think he is a dogmatic, unintelligent, self-righteous Pharisee. MacArthur has no defense of his propositions besides assuming them a priori. If you must listen to Calvinists, I recommend R.C. Sproul. I may disagree with him, but he is not a bigot and he is actually intelligent.Just like sports, hollywood, music and so many other things have become idolatrous worship so is maryism......
Mary was a willing vessel to carry the Son of God..........
Mary DID NOT give birth to the God that was IN Christ...Nobody gave birth to God.
Jesus had a dual nature: Earthly = son of man and Heavenly or Divine= Son of God. Mary gave birth to the human body of Jesus.
As man Jesus was born, He hungered, He wept, and He died.
As God Jesus forgave sins, opened blinded eyes, cause the lame to walk, turned water to wine, cast out demons, He rose again.
Let's clairify when the NAME of Jesus is used are you speaking about when He was a man in His earthly ministry or now, or even before the incarnation.
Mary could NOT have given birth to our eternal God......Where did the Jews mention this ? She did NOT give birth to Jehovah, the God of Issac, Jacob, and Abraham.
John 4:24
King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
There is alot more to God than protestant and catholic......some do not have their roots in either but rather go back to the Bible and teach strictly what the first century church taught, without the man-made creeds, councils and idolatrous rituals.I'd like to add that there probably are Catholics who misguidedly worship Mary. I don't know how common it is, but it's something that should not be done as it goes directly against Church teaching as instructed by His Word.
This could also be said for the occasional Protestant who worships the Bible rather than treating it as God-breathed written word. Most Protestants know not to and don't, but it's a misguided action that should be addressed.
But Mary SHOULD be venerated.
“It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.” — Maurice SwitzerAnything perfect and divine coming from imperfect sinful flesh is ridiculous......
The Bible NEVER calls Mary the mother of God......The perfect and divine did not come FROM flesh (and even the RCCs would not say that) but THOUGH flesh...when a baby is born it is a person (God's plan if you wish to argue with Him) not just a body. God provided the spirit and Mary provided the egg. In Jesus the Divine and human are one person. In Christ, God provided Himself the Lamb for the offering. The PERSON born through Mary was Immanu-El. If God with us is not God that is new to me...now I am NOT saying Mary preceded and birthed her own Creator (so no false accusation please)...but Christ, the God-man, was a person (just one, not a Divine person plus but separate from a physical person). Think on this...
And brother David there is wisdom in what you just said...
Are you really so thick in the skull that you can say such absurdities without bursting out in uproarious laughter? Nobody is claiming that Mary was in the beginning with God. Show me one Orthodox Catholic resource which claims such an absurdity. I dare you! You are full of straw-men and lies.The Bible NEVER calls Mary the mother of God......
Whenever we use man-made doctrines that are not in the Bible, they are un-Biblical, which means NOT Biblical.
Then we are forced use another and another man-made attempt of explaining it.
In the beginning of the Bible in Genesis it says: In the beginning God........Not in the beginning Mary !!
I am NOT uplifting or intentional degrading Orthodox Catholicism as you called it....I am speaking Bible here, In the the beginning was God, NOT Mary. So if she was God's mother she would be first and before just like our own earthly mother was first and before us.Are you really so thick in the skull that you can say such absurdities without bursting out in uproarious laughter? Nobody is claiming that Mary was in the beginning with God. Show me one Orthodox Catholic resource which claims such an absurdity. I dare you! You are full of straw-men and lies.
A true "Biblical" understanding of the deity and duel natures of Jesus Christ is a must.....brother David...You are so right on that point (NOT "In the beginning Mary) and something I certainly took pains to explain that I was not saying (and asked not to be falsely accused of saying)! I believe the Bible supports that the Lord of Elizabeth and Zacharias was only YHVH, and yet Elizabeth, by the Spirit, calls Mary, "the mother of My Lord". So who was Elizabeth's Lord, when Mary was still pregnant? Please answer...
Anything perfect and divine coming from imperfect sinful flesh is ridiculous......
brother David...You are so right on that point (NOT "In the beginning Mary) and something I certainly took pains to explain that I was not saying (and asked not to be falsely accused of saying)! I believe the Bible supports that the Lord of Elizabeth and Zacharias was only YHVH, and yet Elizabeth, by the Spirit, calls Mary, "the mother of My Lord". So who was Elizabeth's Lord, when Mary was still pregnant? Please answer...