Doctrines of Progressive Christianity

DavyP said:
Did you read that Goal 27 of the Soviet 1958 long-range strategy against the Churches? A political attack can be a theological one per their strategy, so we cannot just try to make separate categories with that.
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You lost me on that one. The Soviets had nothing to do with the topic so far as I can see.

MM
 
Musicmaster said:
You lost me on that one. The Soviets had nothing to do with the topic so far as I can see.

MM
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Goal no.27 that I quoted is specifically about Soviet influence of theological doctrine in the Churches. Skousen isn't the only one who wrote about this. The ex-KGB colonel Golitsyn, who defected to the U.S. in the 1960's also warned about it in his 1984 book, New Lies For Old. There have also been religious summits held in Moscow involving western Christian pastors. So beware.
 
DavyP said:
Yeah, but a lot of people look to just follow something, as they often don't care to verify movements they get attached to. Soft words that sound good has been Satan's M.O. since the Garden of Eden.

George Orwell actually was trying to warn the western nations about Communism when he wrote 1984.

Biblically, the Russian Communist system represents Esau, who was also called Edom which means 'red'. That is who the Islamic nations are allied with against Israel per Ezekiel 38 (Libya, Persia, which represents Iraq, Iran, and likely Syria, and then Gomer which represents some of the old Soviet satellite countries, like Georgia, and then old Ethiopia, which used to include Sudan, and Sudan is like Libya allied with Russia. And then the last one is old Togarmah, which was the area of old Cappadocia, what is now called Turkey.)

Turkey is a NATO ally, but still majority Muslim. In the past decade Russia has been trying to get Islamic radicals to create a radical Muslim state controlled government there, and end their NATO alliance. So Turkey is a major place to be watching today. God's Word shows they will eventually join alliance with Russia, and thus complete the Ezekiel 38 alignment of nations against Israel.
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i wouldn't worry about the muslim state because God has a plan for them.



Here's a brief summation on the Kings Highway and a picture of the future reign of the Messiah and the restoration of a highway in the future.
I believe the first time we read this is in Numbers.
Num 20:17 Please let us pass through your land. We will not pass through field or vineyard, or drink water from a well. We will go along the King's Highway. We will not turn aside to the right hand or to the left until we have passed through your territory.”



In the future, the Lord declares that a Highway will be established to restore Egypt, and Assyria in fulfillment ...
Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and Assyria will come into Egypt, and Egypt into Assyria, and the Egyptians will worship with the Assyrians.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be the third with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in the midst of the earth,
Isa 19:25 whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance.”
God has a plan to restore the entire Middle East!
Isa 11:16 And there will be a highway from Assyria for the remnant that remains of his people, as there was for Israel when they came up from the land of Egypt.

and let's not forget Iran, or ancient Elam.

Jeremiah 49:
34 The word of ADONAI that came to the prophet Jeremiah about Elam, at the beginning of the reign of King Zedekiah of Judah, saying,
35 thus says ADONAI-Tzva’ot: “Behold, I will break Elam’s bow— the source of their might.
36 I will bring upon Elam the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them to all those winds. There will be no nation where the dispersed of Elam will not go.
37 I will shatter Elam before their enemies and before those seeking their soul. I will bring calamity on them— My burning anger!” It is a declaration of ADONAI, “I will send the sword after them until I have consumed them.
NOTICE Verse 38 and 39 [end of days]
38 Then I will put My throne in Elam and destroy from it king and princes.” It is a declaration of ADONAI.
39 “Yet it will be in the end of days, that I will restore Elam from exile.” It is a declaration of ADONAI.

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GodisSpirit said:
i wouldn't worry about the muslim state because God has a plan for them.



Here's a brief summation on the Kings Highway and a picture of the future reign of the Messiah and the restoration of a highway in the future.
I believe the first time we read this is in Numbers.
Num 20:17 Please let us pass through your land. We will not pass through field or vineyard, or drink water from a well. We will go along the King's Highway. We will not turn aside to the right hand or to the left until we have passed through your territory.”



In the future, the Lord declares that a Highway will be established to restore Egypt, and Assyria in fulfillment ...
Isa 19:23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and Assyria will come into Egypt, and Egypt into Assyria, and the Egyptians will worship with the Assyrians.
Isa 19:24 In that day Israel will be the third with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing in the midst of the earth,
Isa 19:25 whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel my inheritance.”
God has a plan to restore the entire Middle East!
Isa 11:16 And there will be a highway from Assyria for the remnant that remains of his people, as there was for Israel when they came up from the land of Egypt.

and let's not forget Iran, or ancient Elam.

Jeremiah 49:
34 The word of ADONAI that came to the prophet Jeremiah about Elam, at the beginning of the reign of King Zedekiah of Judah, saying,
35 thus says ADONAI-Tzva’ot: “Behold, I will break Elam’s bow— the source of their might.
36 I will bring upon Elam the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them to all those winds. There will be no nation where the dispersed of Elam will not go.
37 I will shatter Elam before their enemies and before those seeking their soul. I will bring calamity on them— My burning anger!” It is a declaration of ADONAI, “I will send the sword after them until I have consumed them.
NOTICE Verse 38 and 39 [end of days]
38 Then I will put My throne in Elam and destroy from it king and princes.” It is a declaration of ADONAI.
39 “Yet it will be in the end of days, that I will restore Elam from exile.” It is a declaration of ADONAI.

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Yes, but the time those Scriptures are pointing at the end of Isaiah 19, and about Jeremiah 49 with Elam, are post-Christ's return. The Ezekiel 38 and 39 events are for the very end of this present world prior... to Lord Jesus' return. And Togarmah (modern Turkey) is an area further northwest of those regions.
 
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DavyP said:
Yeah, but a lot of people look to just follow something, as they often don't care to verify movements they get attached to. Soft words that sound good has been Satan's M.O. since the Garden of Eden.

George Orwell actually was trying to warn the western nations about Communism when he wrote 1984.

Biblically, the Russian Communist system represents Esau, who was also called Edom which means 'red'. That is who the Islamic nations are allied with against Israel per Ezekiel 38 (Libya, Persia, which represents Iraq, Iran, and likely Syria, and then Gomer which represents some of the old Soviet satellite countries, like Georgia, and then old Ethiopia, which used to include Sudan, and Sudan is like Libya allied with Russia. And then the last one is old Togarmah, which was the area of old Cappadocia, what is now called Turkey.)

Turkey is a NATO ally, but still majority Muslim. In the past decade Russia has been trying to get Islamic radicals to create a radical Muslim state controlled government there, and end their NATO alliance. So Turkey is a major place to be watching today. God's Word shows they will eventually join alliance with Russia, and thus complete the Ezekiel 38 alignment of nations against Israel.
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All true.

Also should be considered that the 1st step to communism is Socialism which exactly what the left in our country are pushing right now.
 
Major said:
All true.

Also should be considered that the 1st step to communism is Socialism which exactly what the left in our country are pushing right now.
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Lenin did say the goal of socialism is communism.

I think this guy G. Edward Griffin explains it best...

 
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