What gives me the right to judge I don't judge I let God judge. If you mean what gives me the right to call out a pastor well I am a son of God who has God living inside me. I will call out any one who speaks against God's word. Paul said compare all who come in the lords name with The Word if they preach something other than what I preach they are false teachers remove them.
So Paul gave us instructions on what to do. I would say Paul was given authority to do so. It is only false teachers and wolves who do not want to be question against God's word. God's word gives us sight.
You said judge not less you be judge I don't think you understand what that means you use it a lot and it is wrong how you use it. Jesus said you will know the tree by the fruit, by the words a man speak you can know his heart and also by his actions. That certainly sounds like judging. And also you pull the judge not less you be judge out of context. It says for the measure you measure against a person shall be measure against you. That means do not judge by your own standards. God gave a number of judgements. for one case if any man say he loves God but hates his brother he is a lair and does not know God. So you see God does want us to know who our brothers and sisters are. and it is only those not with God who do not live by His ways who afraid to be compared to God's word. Judge not less you be judged is what people say who are wolves and want to take sight away from those who see.
I am going to keep my sight and judge people the way God told me to do it, by His judgements.
Who am I to question a pastor we are all equal under God, have you not heard that? God said it, besides that I am called to teach.
Quoting one line from the Bible is not how you preach about God it is how you make the Bible say what you want it is called prooftexting.
You quoted Romans let put it into context Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and don’t argue with them about what they think is right or wrong. 2 For instance, one person believes it’s all right to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. 3 Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don’t. And those who don’t eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to condemn someone else’s servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord’s help, they will stand and receive his approval.
As you can see it is talking about what one person believes is a sin verse another. case in point John the Baptist was not allowed to drink, but Jesus drank but for John it was a sin. who are you to judge John or Jesus, they did what was right between them and God you know nothing about. That is what the passage is referring to. It is not meant to be pulled out of context and used to blind people. with the thought they are not allowed to judge so people are free to do what ever they want.
Sorry, but you need further i study I know you told me I needed to study more but hey remove the log right.
Greetings my brother and new friend in Christ,
You made some claims in here that I have been using scripture false and so on and yet my brother you do the very thing you accuse me of. How can this be?
You claim that when Paul said that if any one preaches another Gospel then what he did then they are false teachers and thus this gives you the right to judge or call out pastors. Kind of like paul was passing out permissions slips to judge the brethren. Hmm Now how can this be?
Was not paul bringing a new message of hope, a new way of getting right before God to the gentiles or those who once were a far off from God? Of course he was. So he was speaking as to any one preaching any other way to get right by God other then Christ was a false teacher?
Yes sir that tells me to go ye out in all the world and judge my servants for me.
Many take things like when Paul spoke about some huksters were preaching out of making money other then the Love of God and yet people accuse ministries who are prospering biblically to be huksters and thiefs and robbers and false teachers. Again how can this be?
You say several times.....that sounds alot like judging. Let me ask you this.....what does sound like mean any way. Well it sounds like that is what I am to do or could it look like and so forth.
Maybe simply knowing or understanding what Jesus said would be more intune with things.
In this post of yours it was said ((Jesus said you will know the tree by the fruit, by the words a man speak you can know his heart and also by his actions. That certainly sounds like judging.))
Umm perhaps we might look at it this way. It is easy to see the fruits in a man by his words. A spirit filled man will speak Godly and uplifting and a carnal man would speak worldly and with human reason. So this says go yee all out into the world and judge all in my name. lol
it was also said in your reply ((Who am I to question a pastor we are all equal under God, have you not heard that? God said it, besides that I am called to teach.))
So God said now yee who are teaching in my name go ye out in the world and point your fingers at pastors and other teachers who man with what little knowledge we have and freely judge in my name. Ummm that just does not add up either. All equal under God...ok and this gives you a license to judge how ?
again I find things like this in your reply ((Quoting one line from the Bible is not how you preach about God it is how you make the Bible say what you want it is called prooftexting.))
Kind of ironic is it not, i mean is this not the very way you wrote your reply to me?
My Friend you claim I am using scripture wrong and for example with Matt and Judge not yest ye be judged. I give you credit you did add a few more verses which is good and I had planned on getting into this .....And here you come with correction telling me I need to study and so forth.
This is not fellowship or iron sharpening iron my friend but rather poor forum edicut and child like he said she said you are wrong and I am right type of games.
if this is how you want to dig deeper into the Most Holy Written word of God then please excuse me for I am bowing out. Now then if you will bring His word to the table and for example why you feel I am using Matt wrong and bring more of His word with it and sit down and dig in with me then I am ready able and willing to ablige.
So for now my friend please think about this and let me know and I will be back around tomorrow but for now I am going to hunt up some good ol cat fishing videos and such and watch them on the smart tv God gave me.
Blessings and Love to you my brother and I truly hope you will try this again.
As we agreed ...to not get offended nor attack but i am challenging you to bring fellowship without trying to prove one right over another.
God Bless
Fish Catcher Jim