JFK also began plans for withdrawal, abolishment of the Fed, and the rooting out of NWO operatives, which lead to the conclusion that he got wise to the Luciferians that run everything and tried to act against them. Doesn't matter, let's stick to the Restrainer topic, if you don't mind.
Please, please answer this one question: Ready? How can Futurism claim that the 70th week has not started yet and then chop it off and send down to the end of time when the Bible clearly says that Jesus was crucified DURING the 70th week, meaning the 70th week had halfway ticked off the clock by the time Jesus was crucified???
My dear friend.......bless you but you are the one who brought up the greatness of JFK. I simply wanted you to know that there was another side of that comment. One that cost me several years of torment, and anguish and many good friends in a place we should never have been.
We can have this conversation for years and my perception is that your mind is just as made up on what you believe as is mine.
Now, If you think on the implications of believing the “prophecies” as past events, since you seem to be a "Preterist", then it can change and usely does nearly everything you have ever learned from the Bible. It more than anything requires one to "force" the Scripture to say what we want them to say to match what we have already sat our mind to.
The Preterists view on the book of Revelation is that its primary focus is on events surrounding the destruction of Jerusalem. Preterists insist on an early date for the book of Revelation to tie it into the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem. Clearly John outlasted all the other apostles by more than a few years and is given the final book of the Bible, The Revelation of Jesus Christ (Rev.1:9).
As the first century nears its close 7 historical churches are addressed. History tells us Revelation was written late in the first century. In Irenaeus’ work entitled,
“Against Heresies” chapter 13:18, Irenaeus tells us when John had his apocalyptic vision and wrote the book. “
For that [referring to John’s vision]Irenaeus wrote the following:.........
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We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this present time, it would have been announced by him who beheld the apocalyptic vision. For that was seen not very long time since, but almost in our day, towards the end of Domitian's reign” (written 180 AD).
How is the Preterist view, either partial or full able to cope with real history. Its whole thought is that 70 AD is when the prophecies took place. Then HOW can that be when all of the church fathers do not agree???
Domitian was a Roman Emperor his reign began in 81 AD ended in 96 AD. Irenaeus lived 120-202 A.D. he was discipled under Polcarp of Smyrna. Polycarp was a disciple of the apostle John, and the bishop of the church of Smyrna in Asia. According to Polycarp the Book of Revelation was written
after the destruction of Jerusalem.
Then, In his letter called
To the Philippians he writes that his church, did not exist in the days of the apostle Paul before the destruction of Jerusalem. Symrna is not mentioned in the Book of Acts, nor in any other New Testament epistle, it was a late planted church. Sardis, Thyatira, Philadelphia and Laodicea are not mentioned in the book of Acts which most believe span 30 years of the early church. Preterists argue that Irenaeus’ writing is in poor condition so we cannot depend on its accuracy.
Really?
Again, that is an example of having to make something work to fit our beliefs.
Then, One of the early Church Fathers, The Shepherd of Hermas, written in the early 2nd Century, states “
the great tribulation that is coming,” which is a silly thing to state if the church believed it already took place.
Now, all of this is easily available over the inter net or books which can be obtained or accessed so this is not new info at all.
Now, I love you and will not argue.....only talk to you, but you spend a lot of time speaking down about Jesuits and the "Futurist" approach to prophecy and even Dr. John Darby and Dr. Spurgeon's explinations of the Scripture. That is absolutely not problem for me but just as it was our friend, JFK.......what is the other side of this story???????
Having said that, allow me to ask this question......."Where did Preterism teaching come from"?????
The view that 70 AD was the fulfillment some point to its development in the 16th century. This theory is said to be invented in the early 1500’s by a
Jesuit named Alcasar to counter the Reformers' claim that the Roman Catholic Church was the “great whore... mystery Babylon” sitting on the beast in Revelation 17.
Alcazar wrote a large commentary, which is available named...... “
Investigation of the Hidden Sense of the Apocalypse,” which says the entire book of Revelation is pagan Rome and the first six centuries of the Church's existence.
He promoted that conditions will gradually improve over time, evolving into a world that has become “Christianized”, and ready for the second coming of Christ. All of the prophecies in Revelation (except for Rev 20:4-22:21) were fulfilled at A.D.70., and that Christ returned in A.D.70 in the person of the Roman armies to destroy Jerusalem and dispersed Israel. (just as Preterists believe today).
Isn't that interesting????
