Israel's role in the end times

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by Jeffin, Jul 19, 2006.


  1. I have a couple of questions: Who are these people who have this information? Who was the President of Iraq and the Commander of the Iraqi Air Force?
    Willow99
     

  2. Amen! We as Christians have our own war to fight and it is a spiritual one. Let no man that warreth entangle himself/herself in the affairs of this world.
     
  3. Dear Willow,
    General Sada does not name the pilots who made the flights in his book. He claimed to know them personally however. I would think that somebody would persue this. I don't think the mainstream media would be interested in locating the missing WMD'S because their agenda is to destroy Bush politically. They completely ignored this significant news when it broke a year or two ago.

    Saddam was in control of Iraq, and I think Muzahim Sa'b Hasan al-Tikriti was the Commander of the Iraqi Air Defense Forces.

    Sada interview at KXLY Spokane




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  4. Over one hundred years ago a preacher of righteousness stated, "So generally does the war spirit prevail, that the extent of a nation’s civilization is now measured by its ability to fight successfully. At the same time civilization is supposed to be synonymous with Christianity. This is very suggestive as to the future. ... In the first place, what is the real cause of war, and of the desire to fight? The answer is concisely given in the Bible: “From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.” James iv. 1, 2. ... Trade and commerce—the desire to have—are at the bottom of all wars, and with very few, if any exceptions, of all the wars that have ever been waged. Selfishness, greed, the desire to grasp all that one can, and no matter what cost to anybody else, is what leads to fighting, whether on the part of individuals or of nations." End Quote.
     
  5. Amen, the "war spirit" is even amongst supposed christianity.
     
  6. Pretty much true - but on the individual Christian's stand point men are involuntarily inducted (I was in 1963) into the military - on both sides - like the civil war, which had the greatest number of casualties than any war we have been in. What do you do then? Refuse to fight? That's an option because history shows that the all Christian Thebes Legion in the Roman army refused to fight in the days Of Diocletion against Christian Gauls. The Legion was decimated as punishment - every tenth soldier was killed. It was done a second time and later the whole legion of 6,600 men were killed for their conviction not to fight.

    The Legion sent this message to Maximillian...

    "Emperor, we are your soldiers but also the soldiers of the true God. We owe you military service and obedience, but we cannot renounce Him who is our Creator and Master, and also yours even though you reject Him. In all things which are not against His law, we most willingly obey you, as we have done hitherto. We readily oppose your enemies whoever they are, but we cannot stain our hands with the blood of innocent people (Christians). We have taken an oath to God before we took one to you, you cannot place any confidence in our second oath if we violate the other (the first). You commanded us to execute Christians, behold we are such. We confess God the Father the creator of all things and His Son Jesus Christ, God. We have seen our comrades slain with the sword, we do not weep for them but rather rejoice at their honour. Neither this, nor any other provocation have tempted us to revolt. Behold, we have arms in our hands, but we do not resist, because we would rather die innocent than live by any sin.''

    This is the extreme end of courage.

    Larry - A fellow heir
     
  7. Thank you for your reply. Right on about the spirit of war.
    I'm attempting to learn more about these foreign countries. You sure don't learn much by watching the news. They would have you think that Iraq is nothing but a war zone because that is mostly all they show us on TV. Just as we don't get the full picture of them they don't get one about America.
     
  8. Yes, the media can make or break a man/woman. They concentrate on what they want to and ignore the rest. You're lucky to see some things one time and one time only and then it is buried in the graveyard of truth.
    I learn more by reading the words passing along the bottom than I do from the "actual big time stories," that they devote so much time to.
    Willow99
    I have noticed that Fox leans toward the Conservative republicans while CNN is pro democratic.
     
  9. If you want to start with the basics go to...

    CIA Website

    Click on "Select a country or location" and choose a country - a lot of basic information there.

    Another inside source of information are the Military Blogs.


    For example: Here is a military Blog page from a Military Doctor in Afganistan. He tells of people sending him supplies and how he distributes them to the poor.


    Shazdoc Site
     
  10. I am unable to view the video's. Probably my slow dial-up connection.
     
  11. Every Word

    Hi Larry,

    Interesting quote, thank you. When I was growing up the toy green soldiers were given to me. They were "cool." Today, it's the extreme violent video games. The emulation of those who sound the drum of war can be overwhelming. The rhetoric that comes out of the mouth of those who encourage the "war spirit" is not easily discerned, UNLESS one sticks close to the words of Christ. I can only give you the scripture and expound on the same. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Matthew 4:4

    blessings to you in Christ,
    John
     
  12. Nice links Jasher thanks!
     
  13. Thanks for the links.:)
     



  14. Yes , this is literal biblical interpretation and it is happening literally. God fulfills prophesy 2 ways. Literally and Fully. The entire bible is a testimony to that. What we are seeing now is a gathering of the jews into their homeland. Next we will see a spiritual awakening. that is when they realize Jesus is their messiah. God does not approve of them doing violance againsed others. remember , Jesus said turn you cheek, Jews dont believe in Jesus as their messiah. and the Jewish nation is like 90%-95% secular. They are not religious. But that will change. This is also in the Scriptures as a prophesy.
     
  15. I seen LA girls post and I was told about groups of Christians who thought that they were the isreal God is talking about and God is done with the Jews. This is dangerous replacement theology!! If God was talking about spiritual and not literal then why does he say in the old testement that Isreal is the apple of his eye ?? and he lays out the boarders of greater Isreal. The boarders are a LITERAL Isreal. I Think soon that Isreal will take Greater Isreal back. This will cause World War. It is interesting to me to see how gods word comes to life before my eyes. I Think the Jews getting their land back after 2000+ years is AMAZING!!! I cant wait to be with God. But I know I must be patient and not too exited so more people can be saved!! Peace
     

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