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Confused about judging?

Discussion in 'Biblical Advices' started by Alex, Jul 11, 2015.

  1. #1 Alex, Jul 11, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
    Hi there,
    please can you help me out with this?

    I read that we are not to judge others, and since reading that I keep trying not to judge other people,

    But when I see somebody sin, I worry that I am judging them because I think "oh they just sinned" so I need some help please, how do you not judge others?

    ""Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned." Luke 6:37

    I keep worrying that I am judging people, because for example if somebody I know isn't a Christian, I may think "oh there not a Christian so that's not good", so does that then mean I'm judging them? Sorry I am so confused about this and I don't want to judge anyone anymore :( I am trying to view people as if I didn't know that they sinned so I'm not judging them anymore... it's so confusing!

    Thanks :)
     
  2. In the answer to your question, you have to look at people not objectionably.
    Try to see the good qualities in others moreover the bad. Granted...its harder, but it will help.
    Pray for those who are displaying negative vibes.
     
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  3. There is a constant mantra playing in the life of the church, "Thou shalt not judge!" But that isn't exactly true.
    To fully understand the idea of judging others, you need to read the full context of what scripture says on the subject.

    Matt7v1“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


    This explains why judging others can backfire! If you walk in judgement, then God has to apply the same standard to you and your life!

    3“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.


    However, if you first set out to deal with things in your own life, ie. first remove the plank out of your own eye, then you will be a fit person to help others with specks in their eyes.

    Thus, as the above scripture makes clear, there are times when we should judge, but we must first judge ourselves.
     
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  4. Thank you so much for your welcome and your help :)
     
  5. Ooh I see, that makes sense now :) thank you so much :) I thought that was right but I was just not too sure, so it's okay to for example if you see somebody you know sin, to tell them about Jesus and say not to sin again? or is that judging? Thanks! :)
     
  6. Ah, that's slightly different. Being either good or bad is hardly relevant to non believers is it? Even if they stop sinning it doesn't make them into children of God does it?. If I wanted to encourage a non believer, I would not start by telling them they are sinners. Why should they care?
    Telling people how bad they are won't draw them to God, if anything the reverse is true. The majority will rightfully point to the church and say, "What a bunch of hypocrites!"
    In contrast it is far better to talk about the loving and forgiving character of God because it is that which draws them, not condemnation.
    Romans2v4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you to repentance?

    If you read the gospels, you will never see Jesus walking around condemning everyone for their sins. He exuded loving kindness and that made the thieves, prostitutes, and common people flock to him in humility.
    Obviously Jesus also had harsh words to say of those who, like the Pharisees etc., proudly rejected his loving kindness.
     
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  7. The bible commands to not compare yourself or to compare other people to anyone for any reason. If they are doing something sinful, and your not doing it too, then you can judge by helping them realize it's wrong. Jesus taught to not judge hypocritically by saying to someone to not do something while your doing it too.
     
  8. Let me add one part to @Francis Drake that when dealing with people, LOVE them. Love covers a multitude of sins. If you tell someone "STOP SINNING!" They'll despise you because of their sin. To love them isn't to ignore their sin, but to show God's love for them and the command to stop sinning. Even Christians don't do that sadly. We focus on sin sin sin but Jesus paid for all sins with His love. Love them, show them love then show them Love (God) and when they accept Him as their Savior they'll be free of sin and have the ability to cease from sin, one step at a time through the Holy Spirit. God doesn't want behavioural modification. He wants a heart transformation; a relationship. Who you hang out with determines what you're going to do. If you hang out with bikers you're going to even learn how to bike. Hang out with painters you're going to learn how to paint. Hang out with sinners you're going to do their sins. Hang out with Jesus and you will become more like Jesus. If you've never painted, will you be a Picasso after two lessons? Then why do we, as the Body of Christ, think someone can cease from sin after two days? Each and every one of the vices we have must be dealt with - this is the wheat-tears story. Don't condone sin, love them and show them God doesn't like what they're doing. Treat sinners like "other" people's kids. Treat Christians sinners like your own kids. The sinners are ignorant of Jesus. Christians are ignorant of God's way to perfection. This is why Jesus came 100% as a man to live only as man, so we can follow in His footsteps through the Holy Spirit in obedience. Then we'll cease from sin and not before, Heb 6, 2Pet 2:14.
     
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  9. Thanks all! :) I feel that we shouldn't compare ourselves to others :) but we should forgive everyone and not judge them :)
     
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  10. That's correct Alex, that is what we must do.
     
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  11. I remember reading now that we are meant to leave all Judging to God, so we shouldn't judge anyone, it's just if you see someone sin, is it judging to tell them that they are sinning? this is where I feel confused.. so sorry it's complicated to explain, thanks :)
     
  12. No, I believe that you must inform others of the word of God and the deliverance from sin.
    God is great and people should know that.
     
  13. Alex, it sounds like you are still desperately itching to tell others about their sins?
    You asked the same question in post no6.
    I then gave a detailed answer in post No7,
    Abdicate reinforced it in post No9.
    Plus Fish of Faith's.
    You then start the process all over again?

    May I suggest that you just reread this thread starting back at the beginning. Collectively it has the answers.
     
  14. Something i would like to add is that when we are constantly judging someone...that is what we are renewing our minds with...so its easier for us to trip up and do it too. Our minds are on sin instead of Jesus who is the author and finisher of our faith.
     
  15. We are not the great farther we have no right to judge that is god job are job is to witness to outhers about the great farther and the great brother and great spirit and the heaven teach peace love and brotherhood. God bless
     
  16. #17 KingJ, Apr 8, 2016
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2016
    Judging is discerning. We are to judge all things as Christians 1 Cor 2:15. We are able to judge properly 1 Cor 6:1-9. One-day we will judge angels. Our truthful self judgment can exempt us from God's judgment 1 Cor 11:31. Our judgment can result in removing some from fellowship 1 Cor 5:11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

    Common mistake 1 = Isolating '' do not judge'' from Jesus in Luke 6:37, from its context is twisting scripture. The context has to do with self righteous and hypocritical judgment.

    Common mistake 2 = People confuse judging with condemning. Not sure why. Judging begins with a J, then a U. Very different words with very different meanings.

    Imho All the confusion on the phrase today is pushed by the GLBT movement. They want ''do not judge'' to equal '''leave me alone to live in sin as I please''. We are all sinners. Uhm, no. Paul ensured many were removed from church and grasped they would not be in heaven. God also ensured the worst of the worst were stoned to death OT. Very wishful thinking by many :giggle:.
     
  17. We fall short of glory of god. Discernment is seeing the truth. Many things needs discernment but judgment is God's job. Because we have the great farther we are all children of god and as children of god we are one family that makes them brother and sister's together in christ (yashua) as for those h
    Who do drugs and alcohol ask the great farther and great brother to help those who do Lucifers junk i talk to them about saveing there life and bring them to christ i have done that and Will do again

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  18. Ye without sin cast the 1st stone

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