ok look i have respect for you as a elder and elder pastor not as in elder age. lets clear the air no more off the wall questions plz. I never said pray through to be saved. it baffles me with some who feel you got to have a phd to understand the plan of salvation . peter said when he took his eyes off Jesus and started to sunk. he simply said Lord save me . Jesus reached down and did. i have yet to find any one certain type prayer to be saved.
the Bible says whosoever SHALL call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. my testimony i said God save me and He did..
the Philippian jailer said God sirs what must i do to be saved. believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you and your family will be saved
some folks cry at the altar . some are quite i was to freaked out to do any thing else. you asked what praying through was a old time preacher man once said pray through your doubt your unbelief your what ever. seek ye the Lord while he can be found call upon him while he is near/
if God through the Holy spirit has drawn a person HE can be found and he is near.
i cant help what type bad experience you had being dragged to the altar . if i am in a service and something like happens if i am pastor. rest assured at some point i would say something about that.
when i was going to church with my wife as a lost man. the pastor use to come beg plead with me to get saved. Bless his heart he ment well but was in the wrong. another man use to come by my on the way to the altar pray . would come by ask me if i wanted to go. wrong again.
if the Lord instructs you to go to a person that is one thing i am 199% freewill. that word alone gives a Calvinist heart burn .
i have took the time out to address you again. its like i told a pastor buddy of mine when he told me how he felt on a certain issue .
i told him that was between him and the Lord. if that was his conviction so be it i also told him there was things we didnt agree on but there was far more things we do agree with .than not since being in the ministry i have found many times. i had to stand on my own to feet and ride the storm out.
in another Church i was pastor out .i was having major headache problems with a woman who had a jezebel spirit. she tried telling me i couldn't serve communion. i set her straight real quick i could and i would. she fussed with me .
i went to my Brother who has been a pastor longer than me. he gave advice i tried it. did not work only got worse.
i will discuss disagreements but there comes a time and place as harry Truman sign on his desk said the buck stops here . have a good night we dont agree on the Altar call