Are Women Allowed To Speak In Church?

Discussion in 'Evangelism' started by little flower, May 9, 2013.

  1. Putting aside some of the misconceptions you mentioned,
    While women may not be ordained priests, many women in Catholic Churches act as catechists and even lectures during the Mass. They just may not be consecrated priests. Not because the Church doesn't want to try it, but because it has absolutely not authority to do it. Though some rebellious Catholics--both laity and clergy--are trying to do it.
  2. I'm glad this topic popped back up because it was on my list to post about. So is there a final summation? I'm still a bit confused.
  3. We will never have a final summation as one group.
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  4. Paul, being Jewish, must have had a Jewish mother, who likely never went anywhere without an opinion. "Oye, I sent my son into the world, and he came back a Christian."
  5. Ok, no worries. [emoji6] [emoji106]
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  6. One thing to keep in mind... There are Having a rule for the general case does not mean there are not exceptions to the rule...

    For example... A moabite shall never enter the Assembly of the Lord - to the 10th generation.... and yet Boaz married a Moabitess - Ruth... Ruth is included within David's genealogy... so she was obviously an exception to the general rule...

    Women in leadership positions was always a JUDGEMENT against Men being Unwilling to step up to the plate (Ref the Prophetess Deborah who lead Israel to war).... Is that a problem within our society today? Yes. Look at your average church... 99% of the volunteer work is performed by women... Men just don't step up to the plate - and so God sends Women to do the Men's work....

    Also - there is neither Jew nor Greek, Free man nor Bond, Male nor Female in Christ.... You will find women sent by God.... Don't reject them out of hand because they are Women....

    Know the tree by it's fruit.... If the fruit is "GOOD" fruit - then the tree is good as well...
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  7. women are vey inportant in church affares
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  8. This is always a touchy subject. :D What do you reckon the connection is ( if any ) with Paul's words about headship in 1 Cor 11 esp. concerning why the Woman/Wife should have a sign of authority on her head because of the Angels ?

    1Co 11:10 KJV For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
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  9. I have no clue, except that I might reckon Paul must have been trying to reckon.

    Also, I ment to say that I have heard you signature before. The one that says: Well I heard there was a secret chord that David played and it pleased the Lord, ...

    It is a lyric in a song that our school choir sings.
  10. Paul was reckoning about the Created order of things imo and this goes right back to the Garden where Eve acted independantly in a vital matter and Adam failed in his duty as the Head.

    1Co 11:3 NIV But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

    1Co 11:8-10 NIV For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; (9) neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. (10) It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels.

    The Angels witnessed the malfunction of the Headship arrangement in the Garden, and we know many followed satan instead of their Head, so it's important we send them the right message now imo. They're watching us.

    The song is Jeff Buckley's version of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. Great song.
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  11. That is a very clever idea, but I don't understand how it affects my speaking in church. I think that I have never been in a Christian Church in which women don't speak. So women speaking must be an okay thing.
  12. The Jeff Buckley version is one of my favorite versions.
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  13. Have you heard the Christmas version?

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  14. Yeah I think the issue was disruption in Paul's day but I looked at the passage concerning headship in regard to Church leadership really. Following the Created order adds some kind of extra protection imo.

    Now that's beautiful !
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  15. Loved it! Thanks for spreading the link :)
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  16. Were women allowed to listen, and then repeat the information on Alice Longworth's or Mary Magdalene's couch?

    More generally, may women be intelligence officers or spies? Did Paul have an opinion about that?
  17. Maybe it should be cleared up...what do you mean when you say "speak?"
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  18. I performed the Rufus Wainwright version on piano at my college when I was 18.
  19. I think the silence refers to disruptive speech but sure the woman could listen and then go chat to Alice or Mary and the man could listen then go chat to Philemon or Cornelius maybe.

    Hmm I don't know if Paul talked about that what do you think; do you think a woman cannot do anything unless Paul said so ?
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  20. Do I need Saint Paul's permission? One of my dad's maxims is: Ask forgiveness, not permission. Maybe my question is too far off topic. I should ask it in another thread.

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