I am a Unitarian now. I would like to see scripture why people believe they are trinitarians. And if people would like, I could share my testimony that I experienced today as to why I believe God is Unitarian.
I am a Unitarian now. I would like to see scripture why people believe they are trinitarians. And if people would like, I could share my testimony that I experienced today as to why I believe God is Unitarian.
If you are happy to be unitarian, OK. To be honest before jumping in, I want to thoroughly research just exactly what you mean by unitarian.Well my first Scriptures that I'd point to is God cannot be tempted. Jesus was tempted so he would be only the Son of God.
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Jesus is God, and Man. The Man Jesus was tempted just as any man is tempted.Well my first Scriptures that I'd point to is God cannot be tempted. Jesus was tempted so he would be only the Son of God.
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Luke 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
First I'd like to say thanks for sharing your belief. It was a belief that I have had for a long time. But I changed because of some reasons that could go with some of your Scriptures. Blue = Your Comments/Scriptures Green = My Comments/Scrpitures Red = Important pointsHere's my two cents on why I believe in the Trinity...
The Hebrew word for God is el in its singular form. The most common form used for God is elohim, which is plural in form.
Scriptural references:
* “Let us make man in our image” – Genesis 1:26, emphasis added.
* “God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of us…’” – Genesis 3:22, emphasis added
* “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.” – John 1:1
* “Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’” – John 20:28
* "You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being." – Revelation 4:11 (the words of the 24 elders to Jesus).
* “…Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” – Acts 20:28
* “…the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ” – Titus 2:13
* “…To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours” – 2 Peter 1:1
Other evidence that Jesus is Jehovah/Yahweh comes from His role as Savior. Isaiah 43:11 says, “I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.” Yet Jesus is referred to many times in the New Testament as our Savior (Luke 2:11; John 4:42; Acts 13:23; Eph. 5:23; Phi. 3:20; 1 Tim. 1:1; 2 Tim. 1:10; Tit 1:4; 2:13; 3:6; 2 Pet. 1:1,11; 2:20; 3:2,18; 1 John 4:14)
Jesus was accused of being blasphemous when He told the man his sins were forgiven, it was considered blasphemous since only God can forgive sins against Himself.
By that reasoning I can only conclude that either Jesus was being blasphemous or He is truly God.
Jesus said this because he knew it was a sin to "try" to tempt his Father into saving him even though God the Father cannot be tempted still. Jesus was tempted because he is the Son of God and is able to be tempted even though he has the Holy Ghost in him and is the Son of God. Tempted is an action that took place. And being a unitarian is just my belief that saying I am a Christian But I belief that only God the Father is God and he has a Son which is the Son of God and we are gifted the Holy Ghost which is something else tooIf you are happy to be unitarian, OK. To be honest before jumping in, I want to thoroughly research just exactly what you mean by unitarian.
For now, I would like you to consider or rather reconsider the passages you have used.
When James wrote that 'God can not be tempted with evil' can you understand that he means 'God can/will not yield or give in to temptation'?
Jesus was tempted, yes, can you point to where he yielded to that temptation?
Luke 4:12. And Jesus answered him, "It is said, 'You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Why would Jesus say this in responce to Satan suggesting He jump off the highest point of the Temple?
One other tentative question I would like to ask you is why do you think it is good to call yourself Unitarian and not Christian?
How can God the father have a son that is not God?Jesus said this because he knew it was a sin to "try" to tempt his Father into saving him even though God the Father cannot be tempted still. Jesus was tempted because he is the Son of God and is able to be tempted even though he has the Holy Ghost in him and is the Son of God. Tempted is an action that took place. And being a unitarian is just my belief that saying I am a Christian But I belief that only God the Father is God and he has a Son which is the Son of God and we are gifted the Holy Ghost which is something else too
There is only one God
The Trinity (Father , Son, Holy Spirit)
Called God, 14;
Creator; , 26:13
Resurrects, 10:17
Indwells
Everywhere
All-knowing; 21:17
Sanctifies
Life giver; ; 5:21, 8
Fellowship;
Eternal;
A Will
Speaks; ; 7:48; 11:12; 13:2
Love
Searches
the heart
We belong to. . .
Savior
; 2:3; 4:10
; ; 3:6. . .
We serve. . .
Believe in/font>. . .
I was conceived by man and a woman, I am a Man.I am a Unitarian now. I would like to see scripture why people believe they are trinitarians. And if people would like, I could share my testimony that I experienced today as to why I believe God is Unitarian.
And as faJesus said this because he knew it was a sin to "try" to tempt his Father into saving him even though God the Father cannot be tempted still. Jesus was tempted because he is the Son of God and is able to be tempted even though he has the Holy Ghost in him and is the Son of God. Tempted is an action that took place. And being a unitarian is just my belief that saying I am a Christian But I belief that only God the Father is God and he has a Son which is the Son of God and we are gifted the Holy Ghost which is something else too
How can God the father have a son that is not God?
. Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Do you know of any examples where a progenitor brings forth offspring that is not the same type as the parent?
Some more Scriptures for your consideration:
. I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.
. By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: 'To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.'
. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
. so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
. and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
So, He won't give His glory to another, which says what of Jesus Christ?
It says that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that I can glorify God's Son because The Father says I can which is cool that God let's me glorify his Son that died for me!How can God the father have a son that is not God?
Mark 12:29. Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Do you know of any examples where a progenitor brings forth offspring that is not the same type as the parent?
Some more Scriptures for your consideration:
Isa 42:8. I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols.
Isa 45:23. By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: 'To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.'
Php 2:9. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,
Php 2:10. so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Php 2:11. and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
So, He won't give His glory to another, which says what of Jesus Christ?
Totally agree I agree that Jesus is divine! Godly because he is the Son of God.Let's assume for a moment that Christ was God in the flesh...for Christ's death to be a true atoning sacrifice, it would be necessary that his pain is the same that any of us could experience in the human sense. It was necessary, logically, for Christ's feelings to align with ours, including temptation.
It was designed that Christ would experience temptation, but not to fall into it. God the father, not being human, wouldn't experience temptation, but God the son, being human (albeit divine) would. Had he not, his humanity wouldn't be present and his sacrifice would be null.
I am a Unitarian now. I would like to see scripture why people believe they are trinitarians. And if people would like, I could share my testimony that I experienced today as to why I believe God is Unitarian.
I asked a nun about that. She said one cubed is one. As far as I know, that is not scripture.
Was John Adams, the second president, a Unitarian?