No, I got it!
John 14:23........
Here the abiding of the First and Second Person in the Trinity with believers; the abiding of the Third Person with them is also promised,
John 14:16; which all make that presence of God with them, so often promised to them in holy writ. Thus our Saviour answereth one part of what Judas said, How is it that thou wilt manifest thyself to us? Because, saith our Saviour, you love me, and keep my words: for though no love, no works of ours, foreseen or seen, be the cause of eternal love, or the first grace; yet it is so much a cause of further grace, especially in the sensible manifestations of it, that no soul must expect it that doth not love Christ, and keep his words.
So once again we see that Biblically, there is no basis to believe that a person never sins after being saved.
1 John 3:5-6English Standard Version (ESV)
5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
The verse does not mean that once a person is saved he never sins again. It does however mean that once a person is saved HE NOW LONGER LIVES IN SIN. His life is not longer characterized by sin. Now, it simply has to be this way because the verse that you did not post is in 1 John 2:29...... "No one who is alive in Christ LIVES IN SIN".
So once again we see that Biblically, there is no basis to believe that a person never sins after being saved.
Then you quote 1 John 3:9... (ESV)......
9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God."
Exactly what I said concerning 1 John 3:5-6 which you posted.
So once again we see that Biblically, there is no basis to believe that a person never sins after being saved.
Then we have 1 John 1:8-10 (ESV)
8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us".
I have no idea why you used this as it completely destroys the idea of human sinlessness.
So once again we see that Biblically, there is no basis to believe that a person never sins after being saved.
1 John 3:8 (ESV)
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
LIVING in sin is the opposite of Christianity for Christ came to take away sin (vs 5 confirms that fact). Sin is a characteristic of the deveil and Christ came to destroy the woks of Satan.
So once again we see that Biblically, there is no basis to believe that a person never sins after being saved.
You said.............
"John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin."
Now after explaining what the Bible actually does say we see that your comment is incorrect. Not by what I say because I am no authority at all, but what actually the Scriptures do say. The bottom line in 1 John is that he is writing about "false teachers" of his day that were teaching error.
I see no real need to speak to he passages you quoted from Hebrews as they were directed at the Hebrews who had left or were leaving Christ to go back to the Jewish rituals and ceremonies.
I say again to you my brother....there are NO Scriptures that speak of man being sinless after he is saved. Every Scripture you will try to use to support your thinking is nothing more than your inability to understand the real meaning of that Scriptures. I say that with all due respect and love for you as my prayer is that you will grow in grace and knowledge.