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Third and Fourth Dimensional Living

Discussion in 'Doctrinal Discussions' started by Noblemen, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. Unless the inhabitants of the world have been birthed by our heavenly Father, Born again, they are limited to third-dimensional (terrestrial, earthbound, materialistic) thinking and living. All human originated knowledge has to do with life in the third dimension.
    Fourth dimensional knowledge, spirit knowledge, comes only by revelation. Humans can comtemplate the fourth dimension, but can only speculate on it. No concrete meaning can be derived from it except by revelation from an entity that resides in the fourth dimension.

    The spirit world is divided between good and evil, the good being from the one true God, and the evil from the rebel, false and self-appointed god, Satan.
    The rebel spirit reveals deception to the fallen human race. This revelation knowledge comes in a form that appeals to and feeds the original lie of Eden that says "ye shall be as gods."
    It says man has independence and is basically self-existent, that he is his own source of good, that he is the highest order of evolution, and that given enough information and education, he can progress to Express the deity he is.

    He believes he has life in himself and if any outside help is needed, it is merely for assistance. Also, the deception says the human race will take control of the universe as man is refined by the evolutionary process. In the lie, there is a sort of caste system with the elite ruling over the ignorant masses.
    The appeal to those at the upper level is for control and manipulation, Well to those at the bottom it is for the gratification of all the base animal passions.
    Caught in the deception, the fallen human race pursues the fulfillment it longs for but can never achieve.
    The opiates of temporal pleasure and gratification become the reason for existence. The lie out of the darkness poses as true light, and so man is caught in the loop of deception.

    There is only one source of true light with no shadows or shades of darkness. There is only one source of pure, unadulterated truth, no Shadowy shades of meanings or half-truths. It comes from the One, true God and is made manifest (knowable) by the Father, Son and Holy spirit.
    God has a plan whereby He purposes to make Himself known to "whosoever will" respond to His drawing by the Holy Spirit.
    God (the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ), too, works in the realm of fourth-dimensional revelation, but His activity is all true. He uses no deception, half-truths or coercion that marks the operation of the evil one.
    His plan encompasses the whole human race, with no exceptions; again it is for "whosoever will."
    His source of communicable truth is the Living Word--His Son, Jesus Christ. In His Son, There is no place for so-called religious practice whereby man by himself, improves himself. He did not merely bring newer and better information. He brought life because He is life, the only true life. He did not give us a better doctrinal statement or other belief systems.
    In fact, He is all truth in person. Outside of Him, as truth in person, all statements of truth are flawed and are held to be invalid by the Father. In other words, we are not of the truth because of our doctrinal statement, we are of the truth if we are partakers of Him Who is the Truth and He is our only true life!
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  2. Wow. I have read two post since arriving here and both have been life fresh air into scared lungs. Good post. Good read.

    It is comforting to see that not all who claim to be Christians are far from GOD.

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  3. Noblemen, have you read "The Fourth Dimension" by David Yonggi Cho? It is wonderful!
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  4. Notice: Once a person gets "grounded in love (God)" he will be able to understand the "four dimensions" of God which is the "Breadth", "length", "height", and "depth" of the love of Christ that is way beyond mere human knowledge. Being able to experience these four dimensions can only be done by the power of God that dwells with in each member of Christ's body, which is the "Glory of God". This glory travels through out all ages, and it is a world without end.

    Eph 3:14.. For this reason I bow my knees before the Father,
    Eph 3:15.. from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named,
    Eph 3:16.. that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being,
    Eph 3:17.. so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love,
    Eph 3:18.. may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth,
    Eph 3:19.. and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

    Eph 3:20.. Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us,
    Eph 3:21.. to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever. Amen.
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  5. Glad you enjoyed it, thats the purpose.
  6. No not yet, there are alot of good writers out there, you just have to find them.
    Most I have personally found, that know anything, are not mainline they are unknowns stuck off in a corner somewhere.
  7. The Fourth Dimension by David Cho is excellent. I once promised myself to read it once every January, but have yet to do so. It is rich. I highly recommend it!

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  8. Hi Pops welcome to CFS :) When you get a chance please read CFS welcome pak here http://www.christianforumsite.com/categories/your-welcome-pack.104/
    and God Bless you my brother from another mother :cool::D
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  10. Hi @Noblemen,

    Initially I was suspicious of the jargon you used, and wondered what was coming, but having read it now, I praise God for it.

    Thank you
    In Christ Jesus
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  11. Hi @Noblemen,

    Initially I was suspicious of the jargon you used, and wondered what was coming, but having read it now, I praise God for it.

    Thank you
    In Christ Jesus
  12. Thanks Chris, I have to say I am a little surprised since you have been reading the articles for awhile.
  13. Hello @Noblemen,

    It was only your reference to 3rd and 4th 'dimensions' that caused me to wonder what was ahead, for the Scriptures do not use that terminology, do they? However, I understood when I read on.

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  14. Ok I see, you know I'm a little slow Chris . Third dimension would be the material realm, and fourth dimension would be the spirit realm.
    We know there is both, so just giving them a name.
  15. The issue with your naming is that there are actually 3rd and 4th dimension elsewhere in our lives. They are defined as: Third-dimension is defined as depth. Heigh, width (single planar object) + depth makes 3D object. Fourth-dimension is defined as time. Time is a point on the space-time continuum. A great example of the fourth dimension is, to me, Salvador Dali's Tesseract where Jesus is crucified for all throughout all time.

  16. Time is the dimension that make the other three L, W, B, possible. The reason being is that it takes time to travel from A to B. So, what we call 3D actually contains four dimensions. Mathematically there are at least 11D according to String Theory. Human beings are subject to all dimensions. For instance, telepathy is a real phenomenon which is not bound by either time nor space.

    All we can, with reasonable certainty, know is that this 'worldly' realm (3D/4D) is the densest realm, and all other realms are finer realms hidden under/inter this dense one. This realm is so dense it is hard for most to mentally break away from it. The bible talks about this dense realm having the need to open (heavens opened) to reveal the finer, subtler realms of the spirit world.

    In regards to satan and God. God is Truth and satan is not-Truth (deception/lie). Truth is the only Reality. Truth is the source of existence. Deception is a an illusion made to feel real through our fears and tensions due to a lack of faith. Only the faithful to God and his Word of what is True can anybody cling to the greater Reality. Jesus Christ, the embodiment of Faith, came to Earth to show us how to have faith. not be afraid, and to believe in him. Jesus said that he is the w way, and the truth, and the life. Those that follow him (way, truth, life) can access the Father (God/Truth/Reality).

    Anything other than the Truth is just a story of distraction. Through our daily prayers and meditations we will know God's will for us; by God and Jesus Christ interceding through the Spirit of Truth within us. In this way, and this truth, we will have a life that remains aware of the greater Reality of God, and not of this dense worldly realm we are seemingly trapped in.
  17. is not time simply a creation of our minds and time actually does not exist,
    we measure it by our sun or moon
    but God does not measure time? in His spiritual state there is no sun or moon night or day to overshadow Him,
    even though he created day/night 7 days to overshadow us.
    it might be for prophecy that God simply says "when I get around to it, I will do it, around then, sometime,"
    without the definitions we put on it that God must act because so many thousand years are up etc.
    I think we are in for a shock when we see God for real as a super being of dark matter without defined form except what he choses as he wills.
    Even we are inside a body, but we are not shaped like a body are we?
    we don't have spiritual arms and legs? Even though it says God created us in his image I think he was talking about his nature and spirit,
    not a body.
    if you had 20 arms and 50 eyes you would use them all the same even though you would look weird?
    our normal flesh bodies are created to hold our spirit being in place and hold it there till the time.
    Our idea of size is all wrong, restricted to our eye approximation.
    eg: 5000 demons can live in your head, so how big are demons? an inch across? half an inch? only big enough to sit on the neuron receptors in your brain?
    God works at the microcosmic and macro galactic level.
  18. What is seen behind the face of a human being?

  19. Time is simply a "speed bump" in eternity that only appears for a little while, and then it will vanish away. Time is just another form of God's mercy upon the human race. If there was no such a thing as time as soon as man sins, God judgement would fall immediately. Thank God, the Lord God in not willing that anyone would parish, but come to repentance, there fore his judgement is stayed until.

    Jesus is the "beginning", and he is the "end", he is the first and the last. If there is a beginning there is also and end. What would we call everything that is in between a "beginning", and an "end"? Time, time is what is sandwiched between the beginning, and the end. If you take away time, then the beginning, and the end "merge" into one. The beginning and the end are the same, because God called everything that was not from the beginning as though it was, so, the end is exactly what God called from the beginning.
  20. As we, slaves to time, don't know timelessness as it really may be.
    To us, if there is no time, then there is no change. Truth is, and anything that is not true is not.
    There is no time to sin. There is no life as we know it. However...

    With God, all things are possible. Much like how we can be humbled and exalted at the same time.
    We may very well be in a timeless space where everything has already happened, past and future, and God made it so that we while we are in the timeless 'now', our brain makes it possible to 'image' past and future (illusion of time).

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