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Revelation Vision 4. The World System. (ch. 17 & 18)

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by Marilyn C, Jan 22, 2016.


    In the next 2 chapters of Revelation (17 & 18) we are shown the details of the world system & how God deals with it. This is the last Gentile World Rulership & consists of a Political & Economic aspect, with religion as a motivating force.

    God calls man`s system Babylon, from the Hebrew word `Babel,` meaning confusion.

    Historically the city of Babylon was where man attempted to `make a name` for himself. The region was called the land of Shinar & this is where man sought to build a very tall tower to give himself prominence. God however confused their language & thus the name Babylon came to mean confusion.

    `they found a plain in the land of Shinar....Come let us build a city & a tower ....Let us make a name for ourselves... The Lord confused their language ...& scattered them....` (Gen.10: 2, 4 & 9)


    The first aspect of Babylon, the World System, that we are shown is the Religious system. Here we are shown all the religions of the world who have come together & are described as a great prostitute – a great profanity of blasphemy & a violation of sacred things.

    `Then one of the 7 angels who had the 7 bowls came & talked to me, saying to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, with who the kings of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her committed fornication`(Rev. 17: 1 & 2)

    Prostitute – Heb. word, `chalal,` figurative meaning - to profane.

    This great prostitute, man`s religious system is very richly adorned & seduces by offering wonderful things, `a golden cup,` but actually it is filled with abominations & filthiness.

    `So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having 7 heads & 10 horns. The woman was arrayed in purple & scarlet, & adorned with gold & precious stones & pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations & the filthiness of her fornication.`(Rev. 17: 4)

    These are the works of the flesh –

    `which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revels & the like...` (Gal: 5: 19 – 21)

    `And on her forehead a name was written: Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of prostitutes (profanities) & of the abominations of the earth.` (Rev. 17: 5)

    Instead of honouring God their Creator, people are deceived into worshipping the creation. Thus having no accountability they are given over to all manner of uncleanness.

    `Professing to be wise, they became fools, & changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonour their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, & worshipped & served the creature rather than the Creator,...`(Rom. 1: 25)

    `because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.....God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,...` (2 Thess. 2: 8 – 12)

  3. Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

    The Seven Hills of Rome east of the river Tiber form the geographical heart of Rome, within the walls of the ancient city.
    1. Aventine Hill, 2. Caelian Hill, 3. Capitoline Hill, 4. Esquiline Hill, 5. Palatine Hill, 5. Quirinal Hill, Viminal Hill.
    Chapter 17 and 18 in Revelation are all about Rome and her Papacy - the Anti-Christ. The destroyer of the original gospel of
    salvation preached by the apostles. The mutilator of original sacred texts casting doubt on the authenticity of Mark 16:14-20.
    ROME is representative of the World economic system of corruption and wealth at the expense of all things spiritual and
    true to God / Jesus. World economic systems and the power of the EU, America and world capitalism.
    Look at Roman symbols still used in many flags and coats of arms in Western nations and World organizations; for example,
    the use of Roman laurel wreaths in the UN flag.
    ROME = Mystery Babylon where there are still so many Egyptian and Babylonian religious practices and doctrines that have been blended
    in with 3rd century "Christianity." Where the Popes still have crowns bearing Babylonian lions on their surface. Where the bishop's Mitre
    is derived from Dagon the fish god of the Philistines.
    ROME where he who exalts himself as Vicar of Christ repudiates the Word of God and issues forth doctrines contrary to the teachings of
    Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit, by an infallible Pope who is a greater authority than the scriptures. [the man of sin]
    ROME which claims the title "The Eternal City" as a blasphemy against Jerusalem and Zion.
    ROME who has made war against the saints and martyred thousands for departing from her rule and power.
    ROME which struck a gold medal to celebrate their victory over the French Protestants the Huguenots in the 1600's.
    ROME who martyred many for daring to translate the scriptures into the languages of the people; so that we could read the
    Word of God for ourselves. She has always opposed the truth.

    Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins,
    and that ye receive not of her plagues. [thank God for the Reformation and the freedom of the Protestant Churches]
    Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
    Rev 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works:
    in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
    Rev 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her:
    for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
    Rev 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
    for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
    Rev 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her,
    and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

    ROME shall be nuked by Russia. Keep your eyes on Russia in Syria and the growing conflict between Russia and NATO and Turkey.

    Rev 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold,
    and precious stones, and pearls!
    Rev 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships,
    and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
    Rev 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
  4. PAPAL BABYLON (TIARA 6a).jpg Crown.jpg pope_benedict_XVI_in_robes.jpg

    Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her,
    and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
  5. Hi @Waggles,

    That would be a good discussion on its own thread. But for now I`ll keep going with the 4 Visions of Christ in Revelation.

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  6. POLITICAL BABYLON: 7 Heads / 7 Consecutive Leaders.

    The picture we now see is of this religious system in a close relationship with the Political aspect of the Global Government : `the woman sitting on a scarlet beast.` This shows that the `beastly` Global Government is carrying or using religion for its own ends.

    `So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having 7 heads & 10 horns.`

    `And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints & with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marvelled with great amazement. But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman & of the beast that carries her, which has 7 heads & 10 horns.`(Rev. 17: 3, 6 & 7)

    Now we are shown the power behind the Global Government. It is Satan, the one who ascends out of the pit.

    `The beast that you saw was, & is not, & will ascend out of the bottomless pit & go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, & is not & yet is.`(Rev. 17: 8)

    Then we are given details of the leadership of this Global Government. The 7 heads, are symbolically 7 mountains meaning they have the highest position in the world: its leaders. They are the `7 kings,` the 7 Political leaders who arise consecutively one at a time.

    `Here is the mind which has wisdom: the 7 heads are 7 mountains on which the woman sits & they are7 kings. (NAS)` (Rev. 17: 9)

    There were five leaders prior to the tribulation & the 6th rules during its beginning. Then the final Global Leader rises to power & rules for the last three & a half years. Satan is the 8th entity but becomes part of the 7 when he controls the Global leader.

    ` 5 have fallen, one is,(6th) & the other has not yet come.(7th) And when he comes, he must continue a short time.

    And the beast (Satan) that was, & is not, is himself also the 8th, & is of the 7, & is going to perdition.`(Rev. 17: 10 & 11)

  7. POLITICAL BABYLON: 10 Horns – Powerful Confederacy.

    We are shown how 10 kings form a confederacy together. They receive power with the ruler of the Global Government for a short time. Thus they are the ruling power group over the other super powers & nations.

    `And the 10 horns which you saw are 10 kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. These are of one mind, & they will give their power & authority to the beast. These will make war with the Lamb, & the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords & King of kings; & those who are with Him are called, chosen, & faithful.`(Rev. 17: 12 - 14)

    This confederacy will then do away with the world`s religions. They burn the `Central Temple of the United Religions of the World` in the city, & then throughout the world. All power & authority is now in the hands of this Confederacy & its Global leader.

    `And the 10 horns will hate the prostitute, make her desolate, & naked, eat her flesh, & burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to fulfil His purpose, to be of one mind, & to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.

    `And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.` (Rev. 17: 16 - 18)


    The city of Babylon will not only be the centre of man`s Religious System, which gets destroyed, but also the centre of commerce & finance – the Global Economy. The prophet Zechariah was given a pictorial representation of this -

    `I said to the angel who talked with me, “Where are they carrying the basket?” And he said to me, “To build a house for it in the land of Shinar, when it is ready, the basket will be set there on its base.` (Zech. 5: 10 & 11)

    Basket – economics, Shinar – Babylon.

    We are now given a picture of this aspect of the city of Babylon. It is called a `prison` & `a habitation of demons.` What a terrifying prospect for those who worship the `beast.`

    `And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.`(Rev. 17: 18)

    `After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, & the earth was illuminated with His glory. And He cried mightily with a loud voice saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, & has become a habitation of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, & a cage for every unclean & hated bird!` (Rev. 18: 1 & 2)

    The 2 judgments upon Babylon -`fallen, fallen,` are then declared. This indicates first the downfall of the religious aspect & later the economic aspects of this demonic government.

    This centre of the world`s trading has made the `merchants of the earth` very wealthy. These are the multi-nationals & traders from all over the world. This selfish abundance of trade is a mark of Satan who by his trade has increased his riches & become proud. (Ez. 28: 5)

    `For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, & the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury” (Rev. 18: 3)

    Fornication – Gk. word, `pornos,` fig. means – idolatry.

    Thus judgment has been pronounced, double for her sins. And a warning goes out for any of God`s people who are in that city, to flee before the coming hand of God in judgment.

    `And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, My people, lest you share in her sins, & lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, & God has remembered her iniquities. Render to her just as she rendered to you, & repay her double according to her works; in a cup which she has mixed, mix for her double.`(Rev. 18: 4 – 6)

  9. These are the 10 tribes of Israel - which became the modern nations of Europe.

    The Treaty of Rome, officially the Treaty establishing the European Economic Community (TEEC), is an international
    agreement that led to the founding of the European Economic Community (EEC) on 1 January 1958. It was signed on 25 March 1957 by Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and West Germany.
    Now the European Economic Community > The European Union.
  10. Fanciful and speculative. also in contradiction of what the sciptures actually state:
    Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

    ROME is the city of seven mountains.
  11. Hi Waggles,

    I can see you will be one to have a good conversation with concerning these things. But for now I will press on with Revelation.

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  12. The Judgment of Economic Babylon.

    This capital of the world`s economy has boasted that it is secure from any financial & commercial difficulty - `will see no sorrow.` Man has finally put together a system that controls everyone on earth by a mark, number or name. (Rev. 13: 16 & 17) But it is God who will judge this demonic system of abuse of power & corruption.

    `In the measure that she glorified herself & lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment & sorrow; for she says in her heart, “I sit as queen, & am no widow, & will not see sorrow.” Therefore her plagues will come in one day – death & mourning & famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.`(Rev. 18: 7 & 8)

    Now we see all those who profited from this unlawful system. Firstly the Kings, the leaders of the nations mourned over Babylon`s fall.

    “And the kings of the earth who committed fornication (idolatry)& lived luxuriously with her will weep & lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying “ Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.”(Rev. 18: 9 & 10)

    Next we see the merchants, the traders who sold everything from precious stones to the precious bodies & souls of man. How utterly despicable.

    `And the merchants of the earth will weep & mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more: Merchandise of gold & silver, precious stones & pearls, fine linen & purple, silk & scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron & marble; & cinnamon & incense, fragrant oil & frankincense, wine & oil, fine flour & wheat, cattle & sheep, horses & chariots, & bodies & souls of men.

    And the fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, & all the things which are rich & splendid have gone from you & you shall find them no more at all.

    The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping & wailing, & saying, “Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, & scarlet, & adorned with gold & precious stones & pearls! For is one hour such great riches came to nothing”(Rev. 18: 11 - 17)

  13. Now we see that the owners of every kind of ship cry out when they see the city of Babylon burning & how quickly it is made desolate.

    `And every shipowner, all who travel by sea, stood at a distance & cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying ,“What is like this great city? And they threw dust on their heads & cried out, weeping & wailing, & saying, “Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea, became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.”(Rev. 18: 17 – 19)

    Here then is the picture of Babylon`s fall. It is a quick & complete work, pulverising & completely destroying that great city of Babylon.

    “Rejoice over her, O heaven, & you holy apostles & prophets, for God has avenged you on her!” Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a millstone & threw it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, & shall not be found any more.` (Rev. 18: 20 & 21)

    By sorcery & witchcraft it deceived the peoples of the world – `false signs & wonders,` (Rev. 13: 13 & 14) & shed the blood of prophets & saints. Thus no musicians, or craftsmen or wedding feasts will be celebrated there, for the Lord God has judged it.

    `The sound of harpists, musicians, flautists, & trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. And no craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore. And the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore. And the light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore. And the voice of bridegroom & bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets & saints, & of all who were slain on the earth`.(Rev. 18: 22 – 24)

  14. Such as Fatima, 1917, Portugal - whereby Satan not only manifested the appearance of the "Virgin Mary, Mother of our God" to three children,
    Lucia de Santos, aged 10, and her two cousins, Francisco Marto, aged 9, and Jacinta Marto, aged 7, who saw Mary six
    times between May and October 1917. She described herself as "Our Lady of the Rosary," while urging prayer, and particularly the rosary,
    as well as penance for the conversion of sinners, and the conversion of Russia to Roman Catholicism in order to defend Rome
    and the Holy Father. [why is Satan so fearful of Russia?]
    Not only this but Satan performed one of his most powerful displays of his spiritual powers when some 70,000 people saw the Sun
    dance and move around in the sky. Quite a trick. Almost 100 years later and Fatima is still a powerful inspirational event and marketing tool
    for Rome today. The faithful still do Fatima pilgrimages to this day.

    The Apparitions of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico - Mary appeared four times to Juan Diego in 1531 at Tepeyac hill near Mexico City.
    She proclaimed herself the spiritual mother of all mankind and left her miraculous image on Juan Diego's outer garment, his tilma.
    To this day Mexicans have a great devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe.

    The Apparitions at Rue du Bac, Paris, France - Mary appeared to Catherine Labouré, in the chapel of the
    Daughters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul, at Rue du Bac in Paris, three times in 1830. She showed her the design of the the medal of the
    Immaculate Conception, the "Miraculous Medal."
    This medal, when propagated, helped to renew devotion to Our Lady, both in France and eventually around the world.

    The Apparition at Knock, Ireland - Mary appeared at Knock, a small village in County Mayo, Ireland in August 1879.
    A number of villagers of diverse ages saw a silent apparition, which lasted about three hours, outside the gable end of the local church.
    They saw three figures, Mary, Joseph, and St John the Apostle, as well as a lamb on an altar and angels.

    The Apparitions at Beauraing, Belgium - Mary appeared thirty-three times to a group of children in the winter of 1932-33 at Beauraing
    in Belgium, in a convent garden near a hawthorn tree. She described herself as "the Immaculate Virgin" and "Mother of God, Queen of Heaven,"
    while calling for prayer for the conversion of sinners.

    And the list goes on over the centuries and into our modern times. Including Statues of The Virgin Mary that actually bleed real human tears or
    shed real human blood - tested by scientists hoping to expose the fraud, but being baffled and defeated by actual miraculous phenomena.
    Satan has power and Rome is his seat and synagogue.
    And then there is the phenomena of Stigmata.

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