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The RCC makes heavy not of Peter being given keys to the kingdom. In a recent chat with a RCC friend (we are usually on the same side of most conversations but this one and Mary,) I gave him an argument that silenced him. We haven't talked since, but we will soon.
So I wanted to share the observation and see what input, correction I would get.
13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, "Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
1) He was talking to the disciples.
2) He spoke to them again, but Peter, who often did, spoke for them.
3) Their answer was, the messiah.
4) Jesus patted him on the back and said upon this rock I will build my church.
Who is the foundation the Church can't do without? Jesus being the Messiah? Or Peter and his nickname?
The one you can't do without, is the rock the Church is built on.
Who was Jesus talking to? The Disciples, not just the apostles, but all of 'em.
So, who got the keys? The Disciples, or the Church, not the Peter.
So I wanted to share the observation and see what input, correction I would get.
13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, "Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
1) He was talking to the disciples.
2) He spoke to them again, but Peter, who often did, spoke for them.
3) Their answer was, the messiah.
4) Jesus patted him on the back and said upon this rock I will build my church.
Who is the foundation the Church can't do without? Jesus being the Messiah? Or Peter and his nickname?
The one you can't do without, is the rock the Church is built on.
Who was Jesus talking to? The Disciples, not just the apostles, but all of 'em.
So, who got the keys? The Disciples, or the Church, not the Peter.