if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it...

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  1. Don’t be led astray by the wicked who are wresting the Scriptures unto their own destruction of the flesh for the heavens and the earth which are NOW are stored with fire for the judgment and perdition (destruction) of ungodly men. This is a NOW thing for men are being decayed in their mortal bodies unto the grave because of their sins. The wages of sin is death….and the wrath of God IS REVEALED from heaven upon those who are led astray by “unlearned and unstable”. The wresters and their followers are both being destroyed.

    2 Peter 3:16-18 KJV
    (16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
    (17) Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
    (18) But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


    Don’t let any man beguile you of your reward: eternal life in the here and now. Beware of men with their enticing words who deceive you into joining or staying in their churches where many are in “bondage”. MANY are “corrupting”…that is, retailing…the Word of God and MANY are being led astray by their good words and fair speeches unto the destruction of their mortal bodies. The life of Jesus is being prevented from appearing in their followers.

    2 Corinthians 2:17 KJV
    (17) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

    If the good news that Jesus IS ALIVE now and so we are to have His life appear now in our mortal flesh is hidden, it is hidden to those who are “lost”…that is, PERISHING away in their mortal bodies to the grave without the life of Jesus being made manifest in their mortal flesh. It is hid to those who are walking in craftiness…handling the Word of God deceitfully for money. They are leading MANY down the broad way to the destruction of the flesh without the life of Jesus being made manifest in their flesh so that they may be saved.

    They are preaching themselves as they preach for money and are not preaching the LORD Jesus and they themselves are servants. They want to live as kings and not servants as they demand payment for preaching the Word of God. The apostles did not preach for money but instead were servants towards their listeners. They worked with their own hands to support their own necessities. They labored day and night so as to not be chargeable to anyone….so that the Word of God has free course and not be vilified by the outside world (because of money preaching).

    2 Corinthians 4:1-7 KJV
    (1) Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
    (2) But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
    (3) But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
    (4) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
    (5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
    (6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
    (7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.


    Let no man entice you with their good words and fair speeches.

    Colossians 2:4-23 KJV
    (4) And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
    (5) For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
    (6) As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
    (7) Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.


    Don’t let them deceive you through their fleshly “philosophy” and vain deceit after the tradition of men who wrest the Scriptures and use the commandments of men to bring you into their church bondage and keep you there.

    (8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    (9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
    (10) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
    (11) In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
    (12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.


    Jesus IS ALREADY RAISED from the dead. Jesus WAS DEAD but IS RISEN NOW….ALIVE NOW. And so our flesh is to be enlivened together WITH HIM….NOW. Don’t let men deceive you into thinking that we have to die physically first for that is putting Jesus back in the grave in our minds. Jesus is not there in the grave for behold, He IS RISEN and so we are to be risen with Him now .

    (13) And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;


    He takes the stone out of the way so that we might depart from the “graves” of men so that we might have HIS life. He blots out the handwriting of church men’s ordinances (the word DOGMAS) and takes them out of the way. their church dogmas are against us and contrary to us....as a stone that blocks the entrance into a tomb.

    (14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
    (15) And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.


    Don’t let men who use their commandments and doctrines that they have wrested out of the Scriptures to keep you in their company. He spoils their powers to keep us there…taking their church dogmas out of the way by the revealing of His knowledge. Don’t let men judge you with their commandments of men and keep you in their company out of their terror.

    (16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
    (17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


    Don’t let men deceive you of your reward: eternal life now. They misuse the words of Moses and the prophets and the apostles (the “angels” or messengers) deceptively to keep many in their churches…in bondage.

    (18) Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
    (19) And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
    (20) Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,


    Many are PERISHING with the keeping of the commandments and doctrines of men…their church dogmas. They do nothing to keep the mortal body alive for it is evident that NO FLESH is being saved in their keeping . NO FLESH is being saved in the denominations of men who are denying the Jesus IS COMING in our mortal flesh as they keep many in bondage with their powers of men’s teachings and men’s commandments.

    (21) (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
    (22) Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?
    (23) Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.


    Why listen to church rulers who would have you choose a “Barrabbas” rather than the Holy One? Why deny that Jesus (the Prince of Life) IS COMING in our mortal flesh in order to keep the doctrines and commandments of men? God has ALREADY raised Him from the dead and so we who are “dead” in trespasses and sins are to also be raised together with Him to partake of His LIFE NOW. The thief only comes to steal, kill and destroy us but Jesus comes so that we might have life and have it more abundantly….in the here and now.

    Acts 3:13-17 KJV
    (13) The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
    (14) But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

    (15) And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

    The Prince of Life gives our mortal bodies “perfect soundness” in the presence of the world so that they may glorify God who is in heaven.

    (16) And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
    (17) And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers.


    God will send Jesus to appear in our mortal flesh….the “epiphany”…the manifestation. The appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ shall come. For yet a little while, He that IS COMING will come and will not tarry. We are to have FAITH in this. Jesus IS COMING in our earthen vessels. The life of Jesus within MANIFESTS Himself outwardly in our outer mortal flesh so that the world may see His glory.

    Hebrews 10:35-39 KJV
    (35) Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
    (36) For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
    (37) For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
    (38) Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
    (39) But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.


    God shall show Him in His times. The appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ in our outer mortal flesh is the epiphany.

    1 Timothy 6:13-16 KJV
    (13) I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
    (14) That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    (15) Which in his times he shall shew,
    who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
    (16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


    His glory shall be REVEALE D in us. The whole creation awaits for the MANIFESTATION of the sons of God. The life of Jesus within us is to be made MANIFEST in our outer mortal flesh. He brings to Light through the good news that He has rendered death idle and has brings life and undecaying of the mortal body.

    Romans 8:18-26 KJV
    (18) For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
    (19) For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
    (20) For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
    (21) Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    (22) For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
    (23) And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.


    Even though we do not see it yet, we are to have FAITH and hope. We are saved by hope for this.

    (24) For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

    We are to have hope for that which we see not yet but with patience are to wait for it….in the here and now.

    (25) But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
    (26) Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
     
  2. Jesus IS RISEN. He IS ALIVE NOW for ever more and is at the right hand of God. He comes to receive us so that we may be where He is….being made ALIVE and sitting with Him in His throne…in the here and now.

    John 14:3-4 KJV
    (3) And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
    (4) And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.


    We are RISEN WITH HIM through the FAITH of the operation of God who raised Jesus from the dead. We are RISEN WITH HIM....in the here and now. Don't listen to men who preach we have to die physically and prevent the life of Jesus from appearing in our mortal flesh for the world to see. They deny that Jesus IS COMING in our mortal flesh in this world.

    Colossians 2:10-14 KJV
    (10) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
    (11) In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
    (12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.


    We are “quickened”….made alive…revitalized…TOGETHER WITH HIM…in the here and now. Jesus IS ALIVE now and so we are raised in newness of His EXISTING LIFE in the here and now. We are made partakers of His existing, eternal life now as He receives us in Him.

    (13) And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
    (14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;


    We are quickened TOGETHER WITH HIM for if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in us, then He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also QUICKEN (make ALIVE with Him) our MORTAL BODIES (mortal=that are subject to death) by His same Spirit that dwells in us.

    Romans 8:9-14 KJV
    (9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
    (10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    (11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
    (12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
    (13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
    (14) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


    We who believe in the good news of our salvation now will be made to sit together with Him where He is….but we do not leave this earth (being “raptured” literally) but remain in the here and now in order to display that life of Jesus and His authority in this world.

    Ephesians 1:19-23 KJV
    (19) And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
    (20) Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
    (21) Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
    (22) And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
    (23) Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.


    We are “dead” already….in trespasses and sins. But He does QUICKEN us together with Him who is ALREADY ALIVE NOW for ever more.

    Ephesians 2:1-8 KJV
    (1) And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
    (2) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
    (3) Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
    (4) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,


    He quickens us TOGETHER WITH CHRIST and raises us up together and makes us to sit together in “heavenly places” in Christ Jesus.

    (5) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
    (6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:


    So that HE might SHOW the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness towards us through Christ Jesus. Who is He showing? The WORLD …who will see the epiphany of Christ Jesus who manifests Himself in each of us as His life and power are manifested in this earth vessel . We shall have "eternal life" in the here and now....to exist for the ages to come to display His exceeding riches of His grace through Christ Jesus whom we sit with in the heavenly places.

    (7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
    (8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:


    We are to display His glory and power in this dark world and gather all things in Him. The world shall see His glory in us …who first trusted in Christ….and shall praise God. We are to be the praise of His glory.

    Ephesians 1:11-14 KJV
    (11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
    (12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
    (13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


    Our mortal bodies shall be redeemed so that the world may see and praise Him....we are to be THE glorious display of Him so that others may praise Him.

    (14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
     

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