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Genesis 3:22

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by JeremiahD84, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. Genesis 3:22

    22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." -- Genesis 3:22

    God says "The man has now Become like one of us, Knowing Good and Evil."

    Man now knows both good and evil because He has sinned, experiencing both Good and Evil.
    I mean no disrespect with my next question, but does that mean God has sinned? God clearly states that He knows both Good and Evil. Has God ever done something evil or is He merely aware of Evil?
    To me this verse implies more than just head knowledge, but an experience.
    I have a habit of misunderstanding things, so I was hoping to get other peoples opinion on the subject?
  2. Evil is Sin, if YHVH has sinned than how could He possibly be an unblemished Sacrificial Lamb? No God has not commited sin, He is Holy, only One is GOOD. He had knowledge of Good and evil.
    He did place the tree of Good and Evil in the garden before he created Adam.
  3. Sin is disobedience to God.
    God cannot disobey Himself.
    To say he sinned, is like saying that I broke the imaginary commandment "Thou shalt not be a muskrat".
    No matter how hard I try, or how much I act like a muskrat, I can never, ever break that commandment.
  4. Until the fall man leaned totally on God for understanding and direction. It was man's ability to make up his mind independantly of God that caused all the troubles. Scripture tells us to " lean not on our own understanding", this is one step back towards the garden.
    Does a Holy God sin? No. Not only is He incapable of error but it is His very nature to be Holy.
  5. God knows the difference between good and evil. Man became like God, in knowing the difference between good and evil.

    God is incapable of sin. He is perfect in all ways possible.
  6. John 19:10-11 (KJV)
    Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee? [11] Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

    This difficult subject has come up before. Pilate saying that he had the Ius Gladii - the Roman right of the sword - could have anyone executed he wished. Jesus said that Pilate could do nothing except for the one above who has delivered him up for the purpose that we all know.

    Who was the one with the greatest sin? Was it Judas? - doesn't seem to fit. What fits better is God himself who delivered up a perfectly innocent man to die unjustly - Jesus had done no wrong. Sin is a word I seldom use because it is old and worn out and meaningless today. Actually "sin" means to do things that are contrary to the perfect, Holy, and just character of God.

    But how can this be???

    Larry II
  7. If we would be able to contradict His will we owuld not be told to choose:
    Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
    Deu 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
    In reality I did as much to put my Lord on that cross as Judas did.
    Some belief that God has both a perfect and a permissive will and that His ultimate plans will come to pass no matter what- I am one of those. It pleased Him that Jesus should die for us- that is an indication of how much He was willing to pay for the redmption of His lost sheep.

  8. Respectfully, I do not understand your logic here at all. God did not sin because He let Christ die on the cross. In fact, Christ had the choice over whether He would fulfill that call or not. The greater sin here is that people who had seen the miracles of Christ and heard His message still found the need to place blame on Him and crucify Him. The greater sin is not on Pilate, who was simply in a bind of a place and had to make a decision based on limited facts, but is on those who brought Christ to Pilate and asked for His crucifixion.
  9. good question,they will be like us knowing good and evil,meaning plural being there.father and son knowing evil,the beast made after there kind maybe?maybe God was talking to many?we do not know.
  10. There´s another question inside that :

    Did God created the evil ?

    If it´s positive, our concept of good and evil is totally wrong.

    If it´s negative , God doesn´t created all the things.

  11. Evil isn't a creation, evil is a LACK of GOOD and a LACK of GOD. BIG difference. There is no "darkness" either, just a lack of light. Darkness is a word to describe an absence of light. Evil is a word to describe an absence of good. Cold does not exist. Cold is an absence of heat. Same thing.
  12. It´s pure world philosophy... We must be guided by the WORD of GOD :

    Isaiah 45:7
    I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    God bless !!
  13. Amen Denis!
    Satan being the personifacation and embodyment of evil. Like all sins that follow he was inot self gratifaction and self exualtation- some call it I trouble. I have seen evil and it is quite real.

  14. I'm not saying that evil isn't REAL. God did in fact create Satan. But Satan chose to be the way he is. Satan is evil because he is as far from God as possible. Satan is all that is devoid of God, the complete antithesis of God. The reason I worded my post the way I did is because some people on here were wondering whether or not God deliberately put sin into the world. No, God put a tree in the world and let man choose whether he'd follow God, or be apart from God. Evil is the absence of God. I stand by that statement, as God is not evil, but the exact opposite. I do not believe that to be a world view at all.
  15. I totally agree with you that God is the antithesis of evil yet Christ created all and without Him was nothing created:
    Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
    Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Personally I believe everything has a purpose and the purpose of evil may be the ability ot choose between GOd and it.
  16. Jesus proves this by saying only God is truely good.
  17. Thanks for this question JeremiahD84.
    I think I will attempt.

    The way I look at it, is that A&E have not just come to know good and evil because they've sinned, but because they have experienced the freedom to choose between good and evil.

    It seem to be that it is that newly discovered freedom that has opened their eyes.........imagine the possibilities..........sort of thing.
    Could it be that they had never made that choice before?

    God also has the same choice (though we know what He chooses :D), and quite a few times, He Himself has regretted some of His choices (think of Him choosing to destroy humanity through the flood, or Him wanting to destroy the Jew and make Moses the first of a new blessed family, etc.....)

    It then seems to me - and I'm talking on the top of my head - that the knowledge of good and evil issues from the knowledge of that freedom - which freedom God also has.

    You logic, JeremiahD84, seems to need to take a reverse mode :)
    Does that make sense?
  18. yep He regretted making us.i,d regret making us.lol:)
  19. Thank you Sylvanus, that does make sense to me!
    I like that you mention God has freedom to choose good over evil, because I have heard people say before that God could not commit evil even if he wanted to... but I disagree with that, I think God has the ability to choose good, and always will choose good!

  20. But it could be argued that Heat must be defined before you can define cold, and Light must be defined before you can define darkness..... So you would also need to define good before you can define evil. By defining what 'good' is, don't you also define (therefore create) evil?

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