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Contradiction

Discussion in 'Answers' started by sharon, May 18, 2009.

  1. Contradiction

    I have been a Christian for many years but have always been puzzled that Jesus contradicts God from the Old Testament to the New.
    In the OT, there is the 'eye for an eye' revenge thing but then Jesus taught to do good to those who persecute you, and turn the other cheek...etc.
    Why did Jesus say the opposite from God?:confused:
     
  2. Jesus was the perfect expression of God's heart. An example would be this:
    God permitted divorce under certain circumstance because of the hardness of men's hearts yet He hates divorce.
    Jesus never contradicted God's heart at any time.
     
  3. Contradiction

    Still not sure of the answer. Seems the opposite side of the coin to me.:confused:
     
  4. Even when dealing with the rebellious Hebrews God always gave them a choice. His heart was to have them walk in faith and choose life but this is something they rarely did so He met them where they were.
    The Pharisees took the Word and used it as an instrument of bondage. Jesus took the same Word and showed it an instrument of love. Pray and ask God to reveal His love to your heart, it will transform the way you look at everything.
    Jesus fulfilled every aspect of God's Law for us because we could not. He suffered all it's penalties so we would not. He also told us that if a man would simply do these 2 things he would fulfill the whole Law:
    Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
    Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

    Yet no one was able to do even that.
     
  5. Why Jesus and the Law sometimes disagree

    Hi, Sharon. Great question! It shows you are paying attention.

    Since Jesus is God and the full expression of God's will, we will never see Him contradicting God. It is reasonable to assume that the pre-incarnate Christ (God's Son before He became a human baby) is the very Angel of the Lord often spoken of in Scripture, who gave important messages to God's people — including Moses. But whether this is the case or not, we do know that Christ is the eternal Word who has always been with God and who is God (See opening verses in John's Gospel, chapter one).

    But now to answer your specific question. Jesus did spend a lot of time explaining to Jewish people the difference between God's will for people and the Law of Moses, also explaining at times why the Law was written as it was (as in the case of divorce and remarriage).

    The really big thing to keep in mind when reading the Bible is the what, the who, the where, etc., just as when reading any other book or collection of writings. The Law (or Torah, which also means Teaching) of God given to Israel through the prophet Moses is tied directly to the covenant relationship Israel had (and still has) with God.

    These laws, commands, rules for dress, warfare, diet, and so on, are often more of a Constitution for a nation or state than the general expression of God's expectations for all humankind. This is made clear not only in the Law itself, but also in the New Testament, where Paul (a devout student of the Law) and others explain that the Law was given as a kind of tutor (not a means of salvation) to prepare Israel for the arrival of Messiah.

    As you study the Law of Moses, you will notice, for example, that it never promises eternal life, heaven, etc. (even though, Job, a much older book, does talk about such things). And Paul, over in the New Testament book of Romans (chapter 4) explains that the gift of righteousness that leads to eternal life is given by God apart from the Law, and not through obedience to a set of commands or rules.

    The Law of Moses is not about spiritual salvation or acceptance by God. Rather, it is about the physical and natural blessing of God in the new land that Israel would occupy. Only physical and natural blessings are promised as the reward for keeping the Law in the promised land.

    In this age of grace, we do not concern ourselves directly with the Law of Moses, although some Jewish believers do. It is appropriate for Jewish believers to give more heed to the Law, even in our day, than it is for Gentile (non-Jewish) believers. We in the church are not replacing Israel, as some folks think. We are a part of something better. Both Jew and Gentile are members of the church, the Bride of Christ and the Body of Christ. But Israel is still Israel.

    Israel has not lost her place in God's plan. Jews have lost nothing of the promises given to them in the Law and by the prophets under the Old Covenant. Every word of God proves true. Every promise of God is good forever. Whatever the Lord has said to Israel is still binding, and all the promises will be fulfilled, just as the warnings and judgments are also being fulfilled to this day.

    For both Jew and Gentile, Jesus is the completion, or fulfillment, of the righteousness of the Law. This means that God will one day restore Israel fully to a position of special honor, even though the people of Israel failed in every generation to walk perfectly with God. And Gentiles who never even had a reason to hope, are also eternally saved by faith in the Messiah of God.

    The Samaritans (who are not Jews or Israel) that were won over by Jesus Christ (John, chapter 4) declared that Jesus was the Savior of the whole world. They knew because they had already been pulled into the family of God by their faith in Jesus. He made no distinction. He offered them the same living water that He offered the remnant people of Israel in John chapter 12. And Paul writes plenty about how God saves us all, Jew and Gentile alike, in his letters to Rome and to the Galatians.

    All of this will make more sense as you continue to spend time in the Bible, making note of who is saying what to whom, and when things are being said, and why and where. While every Bible promise belongs to us (and every warning) as believers in Jesus Christ (everything in Christ is both yes and amen!), we must study the Scriptures in order to understand the historical context.

    The Law of Moses was not given to the world or to heathen nations. It was given specifically to Israel because God chose that people (in Abraham) to be His people, the very family through which Messiah Himself would come into the world to save us all.

    The Bible makes perfect sense the more we take the time to simply read and understand it. There are no contradictions in God or in His message to us through Scripture. But God has put some things in the Word in odd ways to capture our attention.

    You will find that every apparent contradiction in the Bible holds a very special treasure for those who will take the time to dig a little deeper. God gives us these things to stir up our interest and to invite us to take a journey of better understanding in the wonderful things He has said and done, and promises that are still waiting to be fulfilled.

    God's best to you as you continue the great adventure.

    Jim
     
  6. the old testament is the knowledge of good and evil.they were saved by Christ.
     
  7. Thanks Jim, I think I understand better now. Thank you. I was brought up as a Seventh Day Adventist, so the OT features a lot in my former studies.
    I now attend the Baptist church and have done so for several years.
    Really need more bible study!
     
  8. What an interesting combination! You have a very rich spiritual heritage. I'll bet you can share a lot of interesting insights from the Scriptures.

    I have never studied with Seventh Day believers, but I have had some interesting talks with them. Mostly in my early years as a believer. I know that many are wonderful Christians and that they make a genuine contribution to the body of Christ.

    If it seems at times like you must unlearn everything you learned before, just be patient. That will pass. The Lord Jesus made no mistake in leading you as He has. In time, as you continue to learn from the Scriptures, you will begin to see a larger picture than either denomination may offer by itself.

    Sometimes, in our zeal as Christian believers and members of this or that group, we forget that our specific group is only one part of the church, and not the whole body of Christ. God has a plan and a place for each member, and each group of believers. It is better for us to all learn from one another than it is to aim our weapons against each other.

    There are very real enemies of the Gospel. But those are people outside of Christ who reject the Lord Jesus of the Bible. Whoever is inside the fold belongs to the one Lord and Shepherd. When we absolutely cannot agree on some aspect of teaching or practice, that does not always mean one side is right and the other is wrong. More often it means that each side has a part of the big picture that the other does not. There is a reason, and that reason has to do with our overall impact on the world. While we may be imperfect as individuals, the church, as a whole, is not.

    How and when we baptize, what day of the week we gather for worship, whether or not we use musical instruments in the church building, or whether we even have a church building, these and many other things make us unique as groups of Christian witnesses in the world. Each group repels some people by our individual beliefs, while another Christian group draws the very ones repelled by us. And God uses us all to bring people into the family, placing them where He wants them to be for maximum growth and impact.

    I thank God often for the wonderful things I have learned from Roman Catholics, Pentecostals, Baptists, Methodists, Nazarenes, and a great many more Christian believers from other groups. We need each other. We need all that God is saying to the church in and through each group. At the same time, we also need our own strong convictions that come to us, in part, from those with whom we meet for fellowship.

    The world may see Christians only as a bunch of people who can never seem to agree with each other on various points of teaching. But we all agree on the things that matter. On the surface we may seem to contradict each other. But once we begin to share and fellowship around the Lord Jesus, we begin to realize that we have everything in common, after all.

    Jim
     
  9. stop

    stop thinking. have faith
     
  10. There was no contradiction.

    This is what I have understood.

    Eye for an eye is a law which applies to the offender and not the receiver. Here's how I would explain it: Offender should give or expect to give out a compensation but the receiver should not expect it. He should have a compassion just like God has so if he forgives, the offender is forgiven.

    The religious people took that verse out of context. They were so selfish and self-centered that they taught people to expect something back from their offenders. Jesus then clarified this by saying we are to love our enemies and not punish them for what they did to us. As God's children we are to forgive them.

    The contradiction happened when the verse was wrongly defined by religious people.

    There are so many other man-made contradictions. This is just one example. I'll be happy to clarify them if you want.
     

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