Colossians Chapter 3:1-17 Now this is sound advice . I notice especially the "set your minds" instruction . I would suppose everyone but me would interpret this figuratively . I really think i did die . but guess that doesn't matter or change anything about what is written next . Hmm so because of covetousness in its various forms the wrath of God is coming . good to know . Putting to death seems an interesting thing to say . doesn't give any instructions on how to do that so maybe that's something God has to teach you . So then i think .. literal or figurative .. the death thing? but hmmmmm i think either way the important part is that the previous way of life is spoken of in the past tense as if you had died and were given a new life in a new body . Hmm i think we all need an instruction manual regarding putting off the old self . because it is written "you must" rid from yourself all these bad things .. but doesn't say how . so must be something God instructs us on since each person is different . Hmm put on the new self .. now how did we do that? God must have shown us .. and provided the new self . "renewed in the image .." so that's like the self of the bad stuff mentioned in verses 8&9 was gotten rid of somehow i guess died .. er maybe . yeah dead anyway kinda like Adam died the same day he ate the fruit perhaps . but i'm still reading it literally . So we are now a new species . the outward appearance means nothing . our nationality means nothing . our social status means nothing . Because when God looks at us all in Christ . He sees Christ . Read Gal 3:28 to complete the list of what we are not and what we are in Christ if you are so interested . Therefore .. let's see what it is there for .. so from the above passage .. how does one get .. that we are therefore God's chosen people? I think the whole .. you died and now have put on God's very appearance and likeness does it .. but that's just me Therefore, holy and dearly loved .. hmm so if you didn't feel holy yourself and dearly loved yourself when reading the above passage the first time . know that understanding that being of those whom it is said "Christ is all . and is in all ." are holy and dearly loved . go back and read it again . I'd say this a core principle . but the instruction on how to do any of these things seems to be missing . therefore .. God must have the answer . Go seek Him and ask Him to lead you from knowledge into all truth . Hmm this is interesting . "let" the peace of Christ rule in your hearts . so .. what obstructs it .. and what constitutes .. letting? i guess again . this is where one seeks God and finds out for themselves . As a body we were called to peace . we were not called to be anything else . peace is the characteristic of our calling as a body . Thankfulness and peace kinda go hand in hand . Well .. i don't think the passage is asking us to be oversaved, but this definitely is an interesting instruction . it says to teach each other based how you've been living the words of Christ (wisdom) . I think i've seen other translations where it says to greet each other with love songs to God (indwelling) but this one seems more "as you worship God together in song ." tehe . big difference . :blush: Whatever you do, speaking or acting, do it in Christ's name/honour/authority in a spirit of thankfulness toward God the Father . So... what i've gotten from this .. we've been given a whole bunch of instructions that are counter-intuitive with no instructions to actually complete those tasks . but the good news is we have Christ indwelling . So it is sure that what is impossible for us to do . will be possible with God very God indwelling us . Father transform us . if we have the old nature on . help us learn to take it off . and if we have the new nature on but put on the old smelly socks for some reason . help us see that . and teach us how to fully take off the old nature . and how to fully put on the new self . and i know you are faithful in providing the love and power to walk in that life also . as we walk toward you . may we not be the same ever again . in Jesus name Amen .