I hope I posted in the proper thread... Someone will have to move it IF it is in the wrong location.
I stumbled upon this due to being reminded of one of my favourite pastors. As you all know... when someone presses something on Youtube... AI watches and loads similar feeds. So... I had NO idea that there was controversy over this man whom I love and respect.
I am posting the sermon that Alistair Begg gave the following Sunday after the media had a SNACK of him. I know it's long.. I listened to most of it... but I will highlight the two places where he talks about how he came to counsel this grandmother ( whom he had never met but kindly responded to after a very long, anguished letter from her ). The topic was Should I attend my grand-daughter's non-traditional LGBTQ wedding?
If you forward to 15:00 minutes.... Alistair gives the context of the conversation
at 22:00 minutes.... He explains more.
Those two small pieces of the clip will give grounds for a discussion.
If I have broken any rules by starting this thread... I give permission for its removal... however... .I think this is a wonderful place to start a discussion on HOW do we cope with a MESSY... BROKEN WORLD? Do we condemn and hide?? or do we "with great courage" show up and LOVE the sinner outside of hating the sin? Somehow... so many think that we cannot do both.
I fully understand that this is going to be a topic with a large variety of views. I TRUST everyone HERE to participate ( or not ) with absolute RESPECT for one another. I have seen this time and time again... I have full confidence that we can fruitfully discuss this very HARD TOPIC.
As a side-note...I have a daughter who is living in sin. SHE absolutely knows that I do not agree with her living situation.... and by her own admittance... she will say that she understands her situation is NOT ideal. I failed at teaching my daughter the DEEP WORD of the BIBLE because I did not yet have it myself. I depended on church and youth group to provide any kind of teaching regarding sexuality. Fast forward 12 years of her living on her own and away from home.... and she is now the product of what they call "progressive Christianity".
It breaks my heart. But I tell you what... In those five months that we were estranged this summer... and we did not speak.... my heart was ever more broken. I am of the belief that a parent only has to say their opinion ONCE. Part of the process of cutting those apron strings is truly trusting that GOD takes care of His own.
I do not desire to get into the topic of Is my daughter even saved??? I am not interested in that. I believe DISOBEDIENCE does not equate LOSS of SALVATION and I am not open to what anyone might want to say about this... just being honest. This is a heart-felt confession.
LIFE is happening like this all around us... constantly on a NON-STOP basis. If anything has to change... I believe it has to start with us. We need to get with the times also ( and I don't mean by watering down scripture )... I mean by thinking about... praying about... TALKING about what do we do with this mess??? How do we approach the SINNER? This sermon has quite literally made me stop in my tracks. It has given me a lot of food for thought.
Do we shun and ignore... with a violent declaration of DISGUST??? or do we SHOCK with the statement that we are not afraid to confront the issues that are arising at an alarming rate???
Anyways... this has really really touched a nerve with me. BEWARE of the PHARISEES' approach to the sinner.
I stumbled upon this due to being reminded of one of my favourite pastors. As you all know... when someone presses something on Youtube... AI watches and loads similar feeds. So... I had NO idea that there was controversy over this man whom I love and respect.
I am posting the sermon that Alistair Begg gave the following Sunday after the media had a SNACK of him. I know it's long.. I listened to most of it... but I will highlight the two places where he talks about how he came to counsel this grandmother ( whom he had never met but kindly responded to after a very long, anguished letter from her ). The topic was Should I attend my grand-daughter's non-traditional LGBTQ wedding?
If you forward to 15:00 minutes.... Alistair gives the context of the conversation
at 22:00 minutes.... He explains more.
Those two small pieces of the clip will give grounds for a discussion.
If I have broken any rules by starting this thread... I give permission for its removal... however... .I think this is a wonderful place to start a discussion on HOW do we cope with a MESSY... BROKEN WORLD? Do we condemn and hide?? or do we "with great courage" show up and LOVE the sinner outside of hating the sin? Somehow... so many think that we cannot do both.
I fully understand that this is going to be a topic with a large variety of views. I TRUST everyone HERE to participate ( or not ) with absolute RESPECT for one another. I have seen this time and time again... I have full confidence that we can fruitfully discuss this very HARD TOPIC.
As a side-note...I have a daughter who is living in sin. SHE absolutely knows that I do not agree with her living situation.... and by her own admittance... she will say that she understands her situation is NOT ideal. I failed at teaching my daughter the DEEP WORD of the BIBLE because I did not yet have it myself. I depended on church and youth group to provide any kind of teaching regarding sexuality. Fast forward 12 years of her living on her own and away from home.... and she is now the product of what they call "progressive Christianity".
It breaks my heart. But I tell you what... In those five months that we were estranged this summer... and we did not speak.... my heart was ever more broken. I am of the belief that a parent only has to say their opinion ONCE. Part of the process of cutting those apron strings is truly trusting that GOD takes care of His own.
I do not desire to get into the topic of Is my daughter even saved??? I am not interested in that. I believe DISOBEDIENCE does not equate LOSS of SALVATION and I am not open to what anyone might want to say about this... just being honest. This is a heart-felt confession.
LIFE is happening like this all around us... constantly on a NON-STOP basis. If anything has to change... I believe it has to start with us. We need to get with the times also ( and I don't mean by watering down scripture )... I mean by thinking about... praying about... TALKING about what do we do with this mess??? How do we approach the SINNER? This sermon has quite literally made me stop in my tracks. It has given me a lot of food for thought.
Do we shun and ignore... with a violent declaration of DISGUST??? or do we SHOCK with the statement that we are not afraid to confront the issues that are arising at an alarming rate???
Anyways... this has really really touched a nerve with me. BEWARE of the PHARISEES' approach to the sinner.
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