A Picture of what God is doing today for His Body

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  1. #1 Cturtle, Jul 14, 2015
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    Picture of what God is doing today with His people (The Body of Christ)

    Exodus 34:10
    And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the Lord: for it is a terrible (awesome) thing that I will do with thee.

    So as the lord is entering into covenant with us as believers, are you going to join into this with Him? This is what God is beginning to do.

    Neh 2:18 — Neh 2:19, Nehemiah 2:20 kjv
    Then I told them about how the gracious hand of God had been on me, and about my conversation with the king.They replied at once, “Yes, let’s rebuild the wall!” So they began the good work.But when Sanballat, Tobiah, and Geshem the Arab heard of our plan, they scoffed contemptuously. “What are you doing? Are you rebelling against the king?” they asked.
    Then answered I them, and said unto them, The God of heaven, he will prosper us; therefore we his servants will arise and build: but ye have no portion, nor right, nor memorial, in Jerusalem.
    Nehemiah 2:20 nlt
    I replied, “The God of heaven will help us succeed. We, his servants, will start rebuilding this wall. But you have no share, legal right, or historic claim in Jerusalem.”

    So as we read in Nehemiah the beginning of the book till ch 2 we see that God has placed a desire on Nehemiah (it was really heavy in his heart, so heavy he wept, mourned fasted and prayed for many days) here is God's answer to him ch1 vs9.....But if you turn unto me, and keep my commandments, and do them; though there were of you cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven, will I gather them from thense, and will bring them unto the place that i have chosen to set my Name there. This is very similar to 2 Chronicles 7:14. If My people (which the Body of Christ is), shall humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways; then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

    As the king and Nehemiah discuss things...God so graciously orchastrated the kings support (financially, materially and emotionallymeven provided protection for the builders) for the rebuilding of the wall around Jerusalem.

    In the verses above.....is a conversation between Nehemiah and the people who lived in the city. And of course when God is getting ready to do something the devil sends in nay sayers to try to get people in the wrong path and into doubt and unbelief.....same is true here, but watch what Nehemiah has said to the people who are rejecting and scoffing at the idea of rebuilding the wall. Nehemiah tells them that they will have no place within the walls. Wow, how would you like to be in that place? No protection from within those walls because they are not desiring to participate or grab ahold of what God is doing.

    Now lets apply this to today. God has begun releasing the manifestation of His Awesome Power within the Body of Christ. We can either choose to be apart of it or be locked outside the walls into the desert because we chose to not be apart of the rebuilding. I have heard this mostly applied to America...but i do know that if a person is apart of The Body of Christ, no matter what tounge, tribe, or nation you reside.....you can be apart of what God is getting ready to do. There is much work to be done, to prepare our churches and praying for the hearts of the people to receive. This takes money (for repairs to the buildings and roads and such) and time spent upon our knees interceding for the pastors, teachers, and those who are in the Body that God is calling to disciple the new people, and also what role we will be playing. Every role is important! And no job to small when God has askd you to do it .

    God is going to need many and i mean an abundance of The current Body to teach or even just share like Priscilla and Aquillia did in acts 18:24-26 to Apollos. He is going to need people to be intercessors, janitors, cooks, people to open their homes to missionaries from other countries who are being prepared to come and evangelize, etc..... so now is the time to really be on our face before God and asking what our part is in the rebuilding of the Body of Christ. And to decied which side of the wall we want to be.

    In the rebuilding of the wall in Jerusalem God used ordinary people to do the work. He used priests, people who were in government, goldsmiths, apothicaries, etc. And as we see in Matthew 22:1-14 God has lots of people who are called, but if they don't show up.....He will get others (the king went out to the highways and byways to provide guests for the feast) that have nothing better to do than to say "Sir, Yes Sir, how can i serve you".

    As i have been praying about things for a while...i believe that God has also given us these verses from Isaiah 54:9-10.....For this is as the waters of Noah unto Me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so I have sworn that i would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but My kindeness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of My peace be removed, Saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee. Vs.14-17..... In Righteousness (which comes from being washed in the Blood of Jesus, His Blood is our covering so that when the Father looks upon us all He sees is The Blood) shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far lfrom oppression; for thou shalt not fear (because we have ps 91 to stand on as a promise): and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not BY Me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake. Behold (look, and pay attention), I have created thr smith that bloweth thr coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and i have created the waster to destroy. NO weapon formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is Of Me, saith the Lord.

    One final two verses that show us where God is heading in the very near future.....Matthew 15:30-31 And great multitudes came unto Him (Jesus, or in our case the anointing of the Holy Spirit), having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus feet; and He healed them; insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb speak, the maimed whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they Glorified the God of Israel

    Blessings of grace and peace be yours in abundance :)
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  2. Oh. America again.
    I thought God wanted people of all nations, tribes and tongues to know Jesus. Thats all.
    When he returns, he will build the kingdom. We are given the keys...but I dunno about the whole money aspect. Some of us dont really have any, and cant afford even our own homes right now. :-(
  3. Some us dont even HAVE any homes. Or land.
  4. Its owned by other ppl.
    Also, the covenant is the one Jesus made, not the old one.
  5. Which is a better covenant.
  6. Maybe...God is doing something totally different in nz and this doesnt apply. I mean those are good verses but ive never heard them out all together like that! To get people to put money to stuff.
    the Lord wants us to pray, not pay.

    Well at least thats what He tells me.
  7. Ya know if you read the whole post it was not just about money or America. It is about praying for your role in what God is doing in the future and it is happening all over the world. You can either choose to be apart of it or not.

    I currently am waiting on God to supply me a home because right now i do not have one of my own. I sleep on the floor of a friends one bedroom apartment which 3 people share. I walk everywhere i go, and also am waiting on God to bring finances. So instead of grabbing ahold of the negative....grab ahold of praying for God to show you what your part is. There are people all over the world who need to be discipled and plenty of people who need prayer which is something you can do if you desire to. I for one want to be wherever God is and in the middle of what He is doing.

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  8. Just wanted to post the verses in Isaiah from the nlt. And a couple of more that God showed me :)

    9)Just as I swore in the time of Noah that I would never again let a flood cover the earth, so now I swear that I will never again be angry and punish you.
    10 For the mountains may move and the hills disappear, but even then my faithful love for you will remain. My covenant of blessing will never be broken,” says the LORD , who has mercy on you.
    14 You will be secure under a government that is just and fair. Your enemies will stay far away. You will live in peace, and terror will not come near.
    15 If any nation comes to fight you, it is not because I sent them. Whoever attacks you will go down in defeat.
    16 “I have created the blacksmith who fans the coals beneath the forge and makes the weapons of destruction. And I have created the armies that destroy.
    17 But in that coming day no weapon turned against you will succeed. You will silence every voice raised up to accuse you. These benefits are enjoyed by the servants of the LORD ; their vindication will come from me. I, the LORD , have spoken!

    Isaiah 55:6-7, 11
    6 Seek the LORD while you can find him. Call on him now while he is near. 7Let the wicked change their ways and banish the very thought of doing wrong. Let them turn to the LORD that he may have mercy on them. Yes, turn to our God, for he will forgive generously.
    11It is the same with my word. I send it out, and it always produces fruit. It will accomplish all I want it to, and it will prosper everywhere I send it.
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  9. This is correct CTurtle Matthew 12:30
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  10. Oh ok.
    I thought we were already in the world, but not of it. We are called out of it actually to shine our lights in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation.
    My mistake. Not all of us are americans, so i dont know why you put that in there.

    I was just a bit confused by it thats all. But God is surely calling me out of where I am living now cos the city has been taken over by mystery babylon.

    Sometimes you have to leave a place where about 5 murders happen on the main street, the mayor commits adultery and doesnt leave his job or repent..you see gay billboards everywhere advertising condoms, and towers and monuments to mammon are being raised up.
  11. I did my best when I was working but I wasnt in a high positiion so couldnt do much. It wa sad when it all got taken over and amalgamated so we didnt even know who were were working for anymore, ie. The management.

    One of the values the new local govt decided was the most important was PRIDE. They may as well have just put LUST and GREED.
  12. Im sorry cturtle i didnt read the whole post i must have been thinking something else.
    Please ignore those comments. I had a short attention span.

    Im currently applying for a new job so...I hope God will safely deliver me from evil which is all around me. Sometimes its hard to see God doing something when youve lived somewhere so long and just gotten used to the way things are and are overhwhelmed by circumstances and people keep trying to keep you captive.
  13. #13 Cturtle, Jul 15, 2015
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    God loves you Lanolin! I didn't hold anything against you. You are a good, strong, and Godly woman, and very true to God's Word. God looks favorably on you because of it. Jim and i will continue to pray about your job.

    I fully agree with you that things can be difficult (I had to fight tears and frustration and feeling trapped in my own situaton today....and remind myself that my complete trust and faith is in God, not in my circumstances or what i can see, feel or hear), and it can be hard to see in the midst of the storms....but that is the devil's intentions to get our eyes off of Jesus and His was and how good He is and onto the storm so that we sink. But this is the time to renew our strength and faith in God to keep His promises. He tells us that He will take care of us because we choose to live for Him. And now is the time when we as the Body of Christ align our lives with Him, and His Word and trust that no matter what is going on around us.....everything will be good for us because of Him, because as you said we are in the world but not of it.

    Thanks for this response Lanolin. For through my reply to you, God has spoken to me as well.

    God Bless!
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  14. Thanks Chili.....I needed that verse :)
    He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

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  15. I first spoke about america because that is where i am from. But then as i wrote, God reminded me that not everyone lives in america, and that this really is for everyone everywhere. The internet is a huge way to communicate, and there are many of the Body of Christ all over the world. And we alk need to be praying and available to do what God is calling us to do

    Your discripton of your town is quite upsetting to say the least. And i will be praying for God to intervene. And as we all pray for each others cities and towns and countries....God will see the unity and take action on our behalf. And this is based upon the verses from Isaiah above. Specifically vs. 14 :)

  16. Amen Cturtle ! Our sister Lanolin is a Blessing to us all !!
    God Bless
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  17. What if the Picture and the prophecy of the "What" is right and the "When" is right... but the "Who" is a bit off.....

    Notice all of the prophecy you quoted pertains to the regathering of Israel.... Much of it has to do with the physical regathering of Israel and the physical rebuilding of Jerusalem.... Even the Matt 12:30 verse refers to the scattering of Israel into the nations.... and that one of Jesus specific tasks as "Messiah" is to regather the dispersed and banished Jews...

    Then... The regathering we are seeing now is the Jews being regathered to Israel from the whole rest of the world...

    I am very sad that we aren't seeing any semblance of a "Push" towards unity within Christianity.... It really feels to me more the opposite - we see increased division and divisiveness...

  18. #18 Cturtle, Jul 17, 2015
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    Thank you John for your response. I think we see an increase in the evil because the devil wants everyone to think that its over, and that he is so powerful. The devil is the master deciever and for everything that is happening that is good...he is trying to bring more so as to hide the good that is going on. And if people in the Body of Christ thinks its over or is so focused on the rapture...then they give up, and it opens the door for doubt and unbelief and the possibility of them not being apart of what God is getting ready to do. There has to be a great deception as in 2 Thessalonians 2, and in my opinion and what i have gotten from the Holy Spirit is that this is part of the beginning.
    Plus the things that you are seeing is being seen with your natural eyes. Its time to focus on what is being seen in the spirit realm and also what God is already doing in many areas of the world. Its just the beginning of the re-awakening of the Church. The healing and the unity are just beginning, so its natural that we are not going to "see" in the natural a whole lot right now. But the important part is to believe that it is beginning. And it is up to each person to choose what they believe.

    All throughout scripture (primarily the New Testament) we see that the Body of Christ is made up of Jews and gentiles alike, as well as men and women, slave and free. And in those verses it refers to the gentiles as being adopted into the Kingdom of God, and joint heirs with Christ. So if we (Jewish people and gentile people) are all apart of the Body of Christ, then why wouldn't those verses be able to be applied to america who was founded on Biblical Principles, or unto those in The Body Of Christ whom reside in other nations?

    I choose to believe my pastor, that what He received from God is the truth (plus several others have said the same thing), and that the scriptures that have been given by God. And i believe that God is smart enough to not give someone verses that are not meant for the prophecy that is given.

    Furthermore really honestly how many people are decendants of the Jewish naton by blood, and don't even know it? Even if it is just a smidge...like me. How many of us really honestly know every inch of our bloodline? And if we don't then there is a possibility that many are direct decendants to the Jewish nation.

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  19. Thats interesting.
    I did not think of it that way, that i could have jewish blood in me and not know it.
    If we are adopted into Gods family, or bloodline is changed anyway into that of Jesus..we are saved by his precious blood.

    I think the OT is to be taken spiritually, not literally ie. Most of us do not celebrate passover exactly like the israelites do, but our Lords Supper IS derived from the passover.

    I would not say it was a national thing but more of applying to believers everywhere who are called out of their nations to belong to Heaven. We just have to get past our nationalistic mindset, there will be no country divisions as such in the new heaven evern though we all come from somewhere. I suppose that part is going to be healed. Not saying it is ecumnenism youd have to be careful about that but for our own journeys in the Lord.

    I am a bit sceptical of prayers for the nation i think we ought to pray for people everywhere rather than just countries, as most people these days dont really belong anywhere, you could say that most of us have become like the wandering jews trying to find a way home. There is a huge diaspora of peoples wanting asylum in safe countries and america is one of those that offer refuge.
  20. I Ain't Got No Home... Another type of feeling from America - 1920s- 30s?

    On to a different type of home. Out of curiosity, do you really feel you have one in this world? I know there are places I prefer (or maybe would prefer now if they were the same but both times and I change) but have always (even in my atheist days) been to some extent or other some kind of misfit.

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