Thank you Gene, that was far better than previous post. I have no idea what Day I was born again, I started to confess Jesus as Lord when I first heard in Prison. God put me with some awesome powerful men of God. It did not occur to me that I was not saved, it just occurred to me that I needed to believe and obey God. Beating Sheep: The Sheep you call getting beaten mostly know everything (At least think they do), and when they post as if they come off as knowing something you treat them on the same level. I don't call names and I don't tell them they are teaching falsely or tell them that they are heretics. I use a scripture and paint them in a corner since they consider themselves as those that teach. You find forums full of chiefs and not many Indianans. The rest you find I am very gentle as they have questions. I have toned down a lot through the years though. God's Advocate: A women who was living in sin, I found at work crying (My co-worker) She is a believer so I asked whats up with you. She told me that people in back were putting down Jesus and she let them have it. (Despite the fact she was sleeping around) I knew she was not in the place to receive so I told her Jesus don't need an advocate or someone to stick up for him. So I stand corrected because that is not exactly how I meant that. I should have said people pinning evil on God gets me on my soap box. Like saying God Gave permission to the devil to Murder the mans kids taking one scripture (2 but same) out of context and giving them their own private interpenetration. My Father would never give permission to a disobedient angle to murder the children of someone that served him. No, something else happened. Job's fault, not God's. Acts of faith: I gave you my first act of faith. I trusted the Word and it came to pass. I can't say I knew what happened at the time or understood, but I did not spend life in Prison. I also gave you the scripture I meditated on. You want healing and stuff like that? The best gift is the one a person needs at the time. Healing is great, but not always what they need to get fixed. Lots of cases they are out of line somewhere and God would fix that because if they can't obey in that little then Healing is not going to matter. I'll give one out of many: Working for a Pastor that ran night service and I ran morning service asked me to teach Sunday night since one of his teachers was not showing up (Again) The folks at night did not like me or my position on faith so I out of obedience and respect for the Pastor that owned the Church agreed and agreed not to much of that faith stuff. (There was a split between night and day service and I had the largest service which bothered the original night folk) I gave a very simple Joel Osteen, God loves you type of message and that we should love to serve God because he is so Good to us. I tried to keep it simple and not offend anyone. (These folks did not like to hear deep stuff) Someone had brought a young girl to service with them who came up at the end when I made Alter call. So I had a landslide of ONE come up. I went through the whole accept Jesus as your Lord and all the sins be forgiven and normal stuff you hear at any other church. Things were going fine and she was crying and smiling which is a good sign. Thinking I was about to get the heck out of there she did not go back and sit down. It was the end of service, all that was left was some music and the folks talk and leave. I had enough of glaring eyes for the night and it felt like I preached to a wall. Except for the girl, something I said stirred something up in her. So she asked in front of everyone.............. Will God heal my stomach? (She was a noob, nobody told her you don't ask the Pastor those types of questions in a atmosphere like that) You could hear a pin drop in the place, all those eyes looking and just waiting for what I would say. Most Pastor say, yes, yes Child, God does heal and I'll pray for you that his healing touch be on you and His will be done. This way if nothing happens you don't look bad and everyone knows it's up to God anyway, right? sigh............ It did not matter, Night service did not like me anyway. I looked at her and said, "Of course God will heal you, right here and now." I had no idea what was wrong with her stomach but to God it don't matter either. I asked her if It would be OK to put my hand on her stomach and she said yes. I then said.........."Devil, this Girl is now the property of God, get out of here your work with her is finished. Stomach, in the Name of Jesus be made whole, be healed and function as God intended." She said she felt like warm all over her stomach and went to one knee. After she got up with more tears she bolted off to her friends that brought her. It was but 5 minutes later as I was trying to get the heck out of there she grabbed my arm and asked if it would be Ok to go out to eat with her friends. (I found out later she could only have non-solid food and very little of even that) I said your Healed, go eat what you like. So she did............ It was a few days later this girl with her friends ( I knew one of them) came to my house to tell me she went in for the surgery and what the scans showed was where all the tears in her stomach had been there was light scar tissue inside as if someone had repaired her from the inside. She said the doctors were surprised and she did not have to have the surgery. We lay hands on the sick, they will recover. For those that believe in His name shall do this and more. Blessings.