Why Did God Lie?

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I did not accuse you of that? and why get so aggressive , Im just saying what I believe?

okay, sorry. I take it back. You mean the non christians that think christians are stupid for believing in whatever way they believe I am certainly not that type of non christian. I agree those type of non christian shouldn't be allowed to come. I do not think christians are stupid for thinking that way. so you weren't talking about me.
 
Right so if I decide to defend the faith and act in defense of that faith...Im right...:D

eh, whatevers. I'm not wrong either when I see the same exact cloud as tiger. You are not wrong when you see that cloud as a horse.
 
Im not looking at clouds? And Im right not to be looking at clouds right?:)

That's the best description of how I think this situation is, analogy-wise. Anything that came to be is a cloud. And you see that cloud as christianity and I see that cloud as the way I view it. You don't need to agree with me if you don't agree.
 
That's the best description of how I think this situation is, analogy-wise. Anything that came to be is a cloud. And you see that cloud as christianity and I see that cloud as the way I view it. You don't need to agree with me if you don't agree.
Well I can see clouds and not see things in them unless I want to? If a person wants to see a fish or a face in a cloud they will. But the Cloud is still a cloud no matter what some thinks it looks like.
 
Well I can see clouds and not see things in them unless I want to? If a person wants to see a fish or a face in a cloud they will. But the Cloud is still a cloud no matter what some thinks it looks like.

that's how I view all religions. They are right in the way how they interpret because that's the way how they see the world. That is what I am driving at.
 
What do you think about the Person Of Jesus? I mean you have heard about Him, right?

you're just asking how I see the cloud. you don't need to agree with me because that's the way how I see the cloud and how I interpreted the cloud. I won't look down on you because that's the way how you see the cloud and that is how you interpreted the cloud.
 
you're just asking how I see the cloud. you don't need to agree with me because that's the way how I see the cloud and how I interpreted the cloud. I won't look down on you because that's the way how you see the cloud and that is how you interpreted the cloud.
No Im just trying to have an honest discussion with you about my faith, and it honestly relates to how one sees the Person of Jesus. What do you know about Him?
 
No Im just trying to have an honest discussion with you about my faith, and it honestly relates to how one sees the Person of Jesus. What do you know about Him?

okay. I see Jesus as a teacher and I don't believe in the miracles that happened in the bible, nor believe in the afterlife. I believe that it is what you do that determine who you are, rather than us being bad no matter what. If I do good, I will be considered good, if I do bad, I will be considered bad. But that is open to interpretations.

"http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2009/12/21/when-you-stop-believing-a-c/2674
When you stop believing, it doesn't mean you are a bad person. and when you do start believing, it doesn't mean you are a good person either. It's what you do that makes up who are you. If you do good, you're a good person. If you do bad, you're a bad person."

This is how I interpret everything.
 
okay. I see Jesus as a teacher and I don't believe in the miracles that happened in the bible, nor believe in the afterlife. I believe that it is what you do that determine who you, rather than us being bad no matter what. If I do good, I will be considered good, if I do bad, I will be considered bad. But that is open to interpretations.
Lets get past all that stuff that relates to religion and consider Him as a person for a moment? What do you think about how He treated people and why He said He came to this world?
 
Lets get past all that stuff that relates to religion and consider Him as a person for a moment? What do you think about how He treated people and why He said He came to this world?

Just because he can treat people right doesn't mean anything. Mother Theresa is a good person because she treat other people right too. He came to this world because the same reason on why anyone came to this world, their parents are in love with each other and had a child. I don't believe that Jesus was an immaculation conception, unless Jesus was actually born via parthenogenesis.
 
Just because he can treat people right doesn't mean anything. Mother Theresa is a good person because she treat other people right too. He came to this world because the same reason on why anyone came to this world, their parents are in love with each other and had a child. I don't believe that Jesus was an immaculation conception, unless Jesus was actually born via parthenogenesis.
No what do you think about Him and His kindness towards others and why He said He came to this world? Mother Theresa would say she was only acting like Him.
 
I think it's great how jesus was kind towards others, but kindness is open to interpretation. People would think throwing other close friends public surprise birthday parties to be kind but that is only kind if the other person is wanting that to happen. If that other person is shy, and don't like public surprise parties, that person won't like it.

"why He said He came to this world"
I did explain on why anyone came to this world. Their parents are in love with each other and had a child.
 
I think it's great how jesus was kind towards others, but kindness is open to interpretation. People would think throwing other close friends public surprise birthday parties to be kind but that is only kind if the other person is wanting that to happen. If that other person is shy, and don't like public surprise parties, that person won't like it.

"why He said He came to this world"
I did explain on why anyone came to this world. Their parents are in love with each other and had a child.
Your trying to avoid the intention of what I am asking...Im trying to explain to you why we believe.
 
If they was really a "God" in your mind, would you think Jesus would be the Person that would best represent that God?
 
Your trying to avoid the intention of what I am asking...Im trying to explain to you why we believe.

I do understand why you believe. You think Jesus was sent because god loves us all but that's the way how you see the cloud. That's not the way how I see the same exact cloud. I am not saying you are wrong. because it's up to how people interpret the way how they see the world came to be.
 
If they was really a "God" in your mind, would you think Jesus would be the Person that would best represent that God?

not really, many other people before and after Jesus, have dedicate their life to helping others. They all can be loving.
 
Harriet tubman, she didn't want the slaves to continue being slaves so she invented the underground railroad.
the japanese version of robin hood (goemon), he stole from the rich and give to the needy
Marie curie - she discovered radioactivity
copornicus - did some mathematical equations and pondered about science
renaissance painter - showed perspective in drawings
and lots others

We wouldn't know more about philosophy without copornicus.

http://listverse.com/2013/03/22/top-10-most-famous-people/
 
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