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Where Do Babies Come From?

Discussion in 'Biblical Advices' started by SweetSurrender, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. Where Do Babies Come From?

    I know! But, this is not about the birds and the bees. I've always considered babies to have come straight from Heaven because they are so innocent and trusting. So, when I became a Mormon, I believed their doctrine on spirit children. What about the belief that God knew us even before we were born? Does anyone else think this is possible? Does the Holy Bible say anything about their spirits living in Heaven before they arrive on earth?
  2. God knows each of us before we are formed in the womb or born (Jeremiah 1:4-5). There are many instances of God announcing the births of specific people before they were conceived which supports this fact. Just a few such predictions of births are Ishmael (Genesis 16:11), Isaac (Genesis 18:10; Genesis 21:1-7), Jacob and Esau (Genesis 25:22-23), Samson (Judges 13:1-8), John the Baptist (Luke 1:11-25), and of course, Jesus (Isaiah 7:14; Isaiah 9:6; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:31). God also knows and sets our purpose before we are conceived. This is illustrated for us in several scriptures. Jacob and Esau were to become two nations, with the older serving the younger (Genesis 25:23). Samson was to be a Nazirite of God (Judges 13:7). Jeremiah was to be a prophet (Jeremiah 1:5). All of David's days were ordained before they came to be (Psalm 139:16). John the Baptist's name was foretold (Luke 1:13), and his life service to God was known (Luke 1:14-17). Amazingly, while in the womb, John the Baptist even knew when he was in the presence of His Lord and Savior (who was in the womb of His mother), for John leaped for joy in his mother's womb (Luke 1:44)! From these scriptures, we can easily see that God loves us not only before we are born, but also before we are conceived!
  3. I dont believe any of us exist before we are conceived, except for in God's heart, because He knows who will be born.
    God gave me the promise of a daughter, almost 7 years before she was born.
    I spoke about her as if she existed, and I trusted God would fulfill His promise, she existed in faith, but not in reality until God caused her to be conceived.
    The only person who existed before birth was Jesus Christ, who, as the Word of God, created, all that is.
    He came to earth as a baby, grww up & lived a sinless life, and ultimately was crucified so that His perfect sinless Blood could be poured out as a ransom for us.
    It is through faith in what He did that saves us, nothing else.
  4. Life begans at conception. :)
  5. God made man in His own image- the ability to produce life was a part of that likeness.
  6. Jax,

    That's right, the only person who existed before conception was Christ. Now why didn't I think of that? Of course, my friends believe that God was a man like you and I before he ascended to God Hood, so that wouldn't pass for them. But, I am glad that is settled in my mind now. Thanx!
  7. I have heard many people use the verse about God knowing us before we were in the womb(not sure which verse it is so I can only paraphrase right now)as the basis for the idea that babies start out in Heaven. Can someone please quote that verse, and also throw up some scriptural references to the spirit of the individual(or soul-not sure which) comming from the seed of the father(human, not heavenly), because I have heard that too?
  8. Jer 1:5 says
    5Before I formed you in the womb I knew [and] approved of you [as My chosen instrument], and before you were born I separated and set you apart, consecrating you; [and] I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.(A)

    But I dont believe this means we existed in any form other than in the mind (or faith ) of God.
    He see's the end from the beginning, He knew all that was going to happen and all that would be born before He even created the earth.
    God 'knew us' means foresaw.
  9. There is no scriptural basis for that and you cannot base your doctrine off conjecture.
  10. That's one of the most refreshing, assuring, loving, kind things I've read all this year!

  11. I agree 100% about not basing docterine on conjecture. But which part has no scriptural basis?
  12. God knows our spirit,that he puts into a child.
  13. Sorry Steve.:eek: I was refering to any conjecture about a soul existing before conception. There is no indication in scripture that we pre-existed but there are plenty of indicators that an Omniscinet God foreknew our existance. The are many branches of the occult which believe in young souls and old souls but there again is no biblical support.
  14. Aah. Gotcha.:cool: You wouldn't happen to know the scripture that describes the soul(or spirit-again I'm not sure what it says) as comming from the seed of the man, would ya? I'm pretty sure it's OT, because I seem to remember someone on another forum quoting the verse and it stuck in my head as from an OT book, but that, and the gist, are all that remain:(.
  15. I cannot say that I am familiar with that text but I will look ofr it. If you find it post it as I would like to read it.
  16. Remembering Scripture

    Hey, Steve!
    I do not know how all these people can come up with scripture the way they do. I guess the more you study the Word and give advise to others about it, you eventually learn it.

    Here's something I started doing just recently:
    When I come upon an interesting verse and want to remember it, I high-light it of course, but then I jot it down on a blank page in the front of my Bible, with a note, like: "without excuse" Rom 1:20.

    Of course, this can't last too long, as you only have a couple of blank pages in your Bible that you can write on. But, it has been very helpful for me when that subject comes up and I need to remember where I saw it. Just a suggestion.
  17. Thanks for the suggestion ,Honeybare. I wish I had thought of that then. Definately a good idea. Right now, everytime I hear someone reference a scripture I have a questoin about, I try to remember it to look it up on Bible Gateway.com, and I add that specific page to my favorites under a subfolder labelled "scriptures".
  18. I tried doing a few quick searches on BG tonight, Larry, using keywords "seed", "soul", "spirit", and even "babies" and "infants" using the topical index, and came up empty handed so far. That's one of the good things about wanting to be sure. It really makes you dig into the scriptures. I may not find the answer to this question, but many other questions will likely be answered along the way:read-bible:
  19. Pro 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

    Digging in the Word is a great pursuit and we find much treasure and these conversations cause us to dig deep and examine our beliefs from a biblical viewpoint- what a priviledge!!!

    I would like to suggest you guys download E-Sword unto your pc's- it will put enormous recources at your fingertips and you can acess them with the click of a mouse. The main program is freeware. There are hundreds of addtional modules you can add and those are 95% free also, you can feel free to pick and choose:

    Much love in Christ, brother Larry.
  20. E-Sword

    Thanx for the link to E-Sword. I am planning on getting the Bible you suggested. I think if I can sell all the Mormon books I have purchased, I will be able to purchase more of what I need for my studies. I got a Strongs Concordance from someone, but don't know how to use it yet. Maybe downloading this E-Sword site and some other things will help me learn how.

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