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What Was Finished at the Cross?

Discussion in 'Doctrinal Discussions' started by Noblemen, May 22, 2015.

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  1. One of the most wonderful moments ever lived was the moment when Jesus on the cross said, "It is finished." It was not only a great moment for sinners in their need for salvation, but it was a long expected and needed moment for all who believe the Scriptures. The most crucial moment in Gods eternal plan had come to a finished conclusion.

    What exactly was finished? Certainly the ordeal of His death was finished. But that was not what was so important. He was born to die. His earthly living in the persecution He had endured here was finished. But that was not what prompted the words "it is finished."What was behind the statement "it is finished" were two important events; in fact, possibly the two most important events of theFathers eternal plan.

    Both of these events were prophesied in a time before the world was created, before there were humans, before there was a devil working against God's plan and before there was sin.

    The first of these events is stated by the Apostle Paul in Ephesians, Chapter 1, verse four: "According as He (the Father) has chosen us in Him (Christ) before the foundation of the world." This event could not take place until Christ died and finished the work that would be necessary for the Father to place humans in Christ.

    Finished were all the other methods God had used in the Old Testament to get people saved and holy before him. Now, in one moment, Christ had made it possible for the Father to put Christ in humans and have the kind of family He had always wanted. All other means for humans to please God was finished.

    The other event that was finished was what Christ accomplished by His death on the cross. This event was the second thing that was prophesied before the world was created, first Peter. 1:19 through 20. No more sin offering had to be made by humans no more self effort could be applied by humans to please God no more self improvement would be acceptable to God. The sin of Adam was finished once and for all. The work of Satan in lying and deceiving humans that they had to pay for their own sin was finished, done away with, banished and nullified.

    The final blood offering had been made and now there was eternal life for all who believed. The power of death, Hell and the grave we're finished and the two major factors in God's final gospel were complete. The cry of Christ on the cross, "it is finished," is the cry of ultimate victory for every human who believes. The simplicity of salvation for hell-bound sinners is to simply believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31.
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  2. Was Jesus's death on the cross all that was needed for man it be saved?

    1Co 15:16.. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
    1Co 15:17.. And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
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  3. Yes and no. Christ's death made it possible that people could be saved, He was the perfect and ultimate sin offering.
    However, just believing is not enough, you need to live a Christian life.
    Faith without works is dead. A dead faith is no faith at all.
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  4. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. The finished work of the cross is a completed act of God. You must be born again By believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ. Those that have come to an understanding of the birthing and have the knowledge that Christ lives in them will have the lifestyle to follow. Paul said if we follow him we would behave ourselves.
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  5. I don't understand the statement "Believing is not enough"According to the apostle Paul it was enough. I understand your thoughts on living the life but the life is Christ. There is no other life for the believer, no home life, no church life, no worklife, no religious life, no lifestyle of good or bad but life is in the Son. Christ in you is the pleasing of the Father, knowing who we are and living by the life in us is the Christian life, Christ is the only life of the believer. We think we have a life of our own but we don't, Gal. 2:20. We can spend a lifetime trying to straighten out that old life that doesn't even exist to God.
  6. Brother, is the Holy Spirit also needed for the new birth to happen? Salvation, the new birth was not possible until the Holy Spirit was given. The out pouring of the Holy did not happen until Jesus sat down on the right hand of God. So Jesus's death on the cross was the beginning of what Jesus had to do to acquire salvation for man. Was any man born again between the three days Jesus laid in the tomb until his resurrection?

    Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

    Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
    Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

    Tit_3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
  7. This has nothing to do with old versus new life.
    James said "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works."
    It is important enough of a concept that Jesus had a parable for that alone - The Parable of the Talents.
    Each of the three men was given faith, but only two did any works with their faith, the third was condemned for his laziness.
    There will be many who when the time comes will be asked "what did you do with your faith?", "nothing?", "how is that real faith?"

  8. Greetings Glomung,
    In your thinking what is "works" of faith or Faith Works ?
  9. Ok

    And what about Christ who is the only life of the believer.
  10. Here's a great study on this very subject (1 of 5 short videos) :)

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  11. Let's not get into playing with words. They are the same thing.
    The works that Christ commanded us to perform are (but not limited to) visitng the prisoners, feeding and clothing the poor, aiding the helpless, healing the sick, takes care of orphans and widows, etc.
  12. Do you personally know ANY person to whom Christ is their "only life"?
    Many make big talk, but fail miserably in the performance.
  13. Im speaking from the scriptures, every born-again believer has Christ as his only life. You have no life of your own, now or Previously before salvation. Christ is all and in you all Paul would say. I do understand it takes time for the believer to see this but in time knowledge will catch up with the facts. We have always been dependant upon our nature, spirit, life all Synonymous. We were joined to Christ the moment we believed and became one spirit. The renewing of the mind is imperative.
  14. In that case, there are very few "born again believers". Most folks I know spend most of their time and effort on wordly things.
    By and large, all that religious talk is just that, talk. There is no substance behind it.
    Over the years I've met quite a few of the "holy brigade". Other than their rhetoric, their lives were not functionally different from the average atheist. They commit sin with just as much ease and enthusiasm.
    They have a saying in India "empty vessels make the most noise".
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  15. Was not playing with words Brother. I worded it both ways so you would know what i was asking. I asked because it seems that the works most people feel are connected to faith are actually deeds or works done from compassion and love such as the ones you listed above. To feed the poor or visit jails or hospitals does not take faith or work through faith but rather works of a loving heart or compassionant heart such as The Fathers heart.

    The written word of God is filled with the ways we are to conduct our selves each and every day in this Kingdom we live in. They are kingdom laws or the way God does things. This includes walking in Love and walking in Forgivness to mention a couple.

    Walking in the spirit and renewing the mind are works of faith. Anything God has taught us in His word are the things we need to do and so if one claims to have Faith in God but refuses to walk in love or to forgive any and all then their faith is dead or useless. Not allowing doubt and fear and unbelief into your life and actions and reacteions are works of faith.

    This is the point I was getting at.
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  16. When we miss the mark we have grace and when we need to we repent and change things but this does not claim yay or nay towards one living for Christ only. Obedience is what God wants and isnot looking for perfection for He can make things right or fix things.
  17. That is why I believe there will be very few in the rapture. I pray I am found worthy to escape.
  18. That may be the funny part (from a morbid point of view), that there are so few in the "Rapture" that nobody notices.
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  19. I disagree with you here. There may be a lot of folks who just skim by and get through the doors because of the blood of Jesus covering them but to say that many wont make it in because they are not walking as strong as we should is not settling.
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  20. I would say that Brother Abdicate is probably referring to the fact to what Jesus said....

    Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Of course there will be millions who will be saved, but if we look at it from a percentage of all who could be saved, it will be few.
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