What could make a church today like the Laodiceans as being lukewarm? Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Is it this below? Proverbs 30:7 Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die: 8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: 9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain. We know that being rich is not a sin because there is such a thing as rich believers, but can this charge be also given to churches? 1 Timothy 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; 18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; 19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. So is a church being lukewarm that rests on members' duty to tithe and to keep their pledges of giving to run on rather than on God to provide by raising up cheerful givers? If God frowned on King Saul for taking a count on the number of men in the armies, would a budget report on the expected tithes and pledges of givings from all the members in the church is like saying, "I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing."? What did God say about planning for tomorrow with a budget? James 4:13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. How many churches say "If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.." in regards to their budgetting thus showing their dependence on God? Or is there different offense that is being addressed here and thus another way for the church at Laodicea to repent that today churches need to be mindful of?