What Else Do I Do?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by ThomasA, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. I've been suffering for quite awhile with depression and anxiety, (so has my mom). Back in January things got even worse when out of nowhere I had tons of pressure in my chest to the point it felt like I heart attack. It wasn't, however this pressure lasted up until last week. Though the stomach problems (that were the cause of it as well as anxiety) continue to persist. Ever since that day, however, I have not had a single day without fearing that I'm going to die that day or soon after with or without a physical feeling on my chest. I just can't stop fearing that I'm going to die. I can't even do anything that makes me excited or nervous or even something that gives me adrenaline or just makes my heart beat faster (like exercise) without my brain going into some type of panic and making me think I'm going to die. The conscious part of my brain, I almost always know I won't and that it's just panic. What this means is the problem lies with the subconscious, the part that is much harder to tell what to think, or to make go back to how I was before that day happened.
    Of course this isn't my (our) only problem. There are quite a few problems we're dealing with atm, financial is another big concern as well as my mom's physical health that seems to be slowly getting worse.
    I pray as much as I can and ALWAYS make sure I pray before I go to bed as well as thanking God in the morning for a new day and thanking him for my meals. I've also written several different prayer requests in these forums before. So, as the title says, what else do I do? I've been stuck in this same mode (before the chest thing happened in January) since I left school due to depression, bullies and lack of interest, 8 years ago. Almost every time it seems we are starting to get ahead something takes it or another thing away and puts us back to where we were, if not worse.
    I don't think I'll ever stop believing in God, however I can't help but have doubts some days. At this point, we pretty much need a miracle. I can't even work in my current position, but I'm also not bad enough to actually get disability, not that I would want it since I know I'd be able to work if this would just pass.
    Does anyone know what I should do, what I need to do differently? I know I can't make God do anything, but there has to be a reason why he's not "pulling the trigger", so to speak. Like I'm somehow still missing something that he's waiting for me to get or understand first. Idk, I'm just really confused on why we continue to suffer like this, and are slowly deteriorating. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    P.S: The reason I put this under general discussion instead of the prayer request forums is because this is bigger than just asking for prayers (which would also be greatly appreciated). I know there have to be others like us that are wondering why it doesn't seem like God is helping them. We know he is at least helping us get by, but never actually prosper or get better.
  2. Reading your post makes me think you are looking inwardly. First scripture:
    Colossians 3:1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.
    In this we see that we should be concerned with spiritual things more than our physical problems. Not that you ignore what is around you, but this is more a priority organizer. I had a heart attack in 2003 when I was 36 years old. I was in great shape physically, just an hereditary imbalance in my cholesterol. So I lost 1/3 of my heart muscle and more than half of my heart function. This was difficult for me since I was so active. This activity kept me away from spiritual concerns. So after this event, I was able to have more time to become more spiritually active with teaching and music and studying. It is what I needed to break the cycle I was in. It forced me to open new doors.

    Philippians 4:4 Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!

    5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.

    6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
    7 and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
    8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
    9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.

    Here we see to be thankful and interact with others. Be looking for opportunities. Pray for these. God will open doors for you. But you need to go thru the doors.
    And then immerse your mind in the good things. Prepare yourself for something to happen. Pray for the ability to give God the glory in the things He is preparing for you.

    When we are caught up in our selves we miss the things meant for us.
    God bless.
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  3. I know how you feel I deal with this everyday...

    Its something that has to be managed...if you need medication dont be afraid to get it, to get help...

    I also feel with anxiety the major issue ,well one, is the repression of emotions....anger,grief whatever...is not expressed comes out a different way...which is in anxiety.

    So make sure you properly deal with your emotions in a healthy way.

    Other things that help is excerising, eating healthy and leading a well rounded life...

    And god knows how hard this is...even if your just capable of reading one verse a day that's okay..just dont stop praying.
  4. Also staying busy ..keeps your mind from lurking..

    Also as a person who's dealt with anxiety forever...

    Dont try and stop the thoughts...the harder u try the stronger it comes back..the more u just let it flow in and out of your mind....the less scary it'll be.
  5. Maybe he wants u to trust him...another thing that causes anxiety is the fear of the unknown and wrestling to with it...

    I have this issue as well...maybe you should try praying the serenity prayer daily..along with speaking from the heart.
  6. I don't really understand what I'm doing. Or what to do. Thinking of ways to help get myself and my family out of this situation, praying to God asking him to get us out of this situation, asking God to help get me out of these physical problems that are haulting me in doing anything. I don't even know how to properly study with the bible. I REALLY hate reading, it bothers me quite a lot, but I still read the bible from start almost to the end. Haven't done so in a few months, maybe more, but I honestly didn't notice a change during those months of reading, not that that was why I was doing it, i'm just saying. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or what. That's also why I feel like I'm praying wrong too.
    I mean, I don't want a heart attack. I'm scared to death of having one every since that day 2 months ago. I don't want that type of wake up call, but I also don't want to keep from God. I want to do it the way he wants me to, I just have no idea how.
    What's also really bothering me is staying away from church. It's been a REALLY long time since we've been to church. I really want to go, but my stepdad doesn't support it and doesn't want my mom or myself to go. I was thinking about trying to find one close and just walking there even if it's not the specific branch of Christianity we are, since that's the only way I'd be able to without him knowing, but my mom wouldn't be able to.
  7. For some reason my last doctor I went to said he does not want me to be on medication. I mean, it's not like I want to. Many are addicting and your body becomes reliant on it. Or they have bad side effects, and sometimes can make the anxiety worse, all depends on how your body handles it. He said I was too young for it, I would agree and would obviously prefer to go the route of God healing me from it instead.
    This anxiety is bad, and random. Any form of exercise or excitement/jump scares or anything else that raises my heart beat, my anxiety automatically kicks in and tries telling me it's a panic attack or something wrong in my chest. I can't just not exercise, but I also can't keep getting that every time either.
    Before this happened in January, I was completely fine with dentists. They just don't bother me. I even had a root canal and I was fine. But just yesterday I went in for a cleaning and was flipping out. I was shaking, my teeth were chattering and I kept wanting to just get out of the chair and get up because it was so hard to handle that.
    My anxiety increases just by me taking my hand off my chest. I keep holding my chest throughout the day just to get a small bit of relief. Like somehow I'm protecting my chest and heart and stuff by covering it with my arm, which the normal part of my brain knows it makes no difference.
  8. Hebrews 6:1-3 says that for miracles we must seek to obey Christ and no longer need to constantly repent. We can do this through the power of the Holy Spirit -
    1 Corinthians 10:13, 2 Peter 2:9, Galatians 5:18 - 24

    "Do unto others..." Matthew 7:12
    These are Christs details of that statement:
    1. Ask for forgiveness if you know you should - Matthew 5:23
    2. Do not look at the opposite sex with lust - Matthew 5:28
    3. Avoid all fornication - Matthew 5:32, Acts 15:28-29, 1 Corinthians 6:18
    4. Do not make any oaths, and say what you mean - Matthew 5:34-37
    5. Do not seek revenge/retaliation - Matthew 5:38-39
    6. Give anything and everything you can - Matthew 5:40-42
    7. Love everyone, even those who don't love you - Matthew 5:43-48
    8. Don't make a big deal out of your giving - Matthew 6:1-4
    9. Pray in secret - Matthew 6:6-7 Don't pray for others to hear you
    for example "Dear God, please let Bill understand that he is wrong..."
    When Bill is right there, your really not praying to God in that case.
    10. For the same reason, if you fast, fast in secret, you want only God to know your fasting.
    Matthew 6:16-18
    11. Forgive others Matthew 6:14-15
    12. Don't worry about what you will eat or put on,
    if you are following Christ (His teachings) everything will work out.
    Matthew 6:25-34
    13. Don't judge hypocritically. Matthew 7:1-5
    For example, when in traffic and someone cuts you off, try not to immediately assume
    that the person is bad, or did so for a bad reason, certainly don't retaliate.
    You would not want them to assume bad things about you.
    14. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Matthew 7:12
    That is what Christ said, after He had laid out the details of that same statement.

    Following the details, the specific doctrine of Christ (2 John 1:9)
    is how to cause God to act in a miraculous way for you.
    Therefore, if you want big miracles, take things to the extreme.
    Whenever and every time you see someone pulled over with a flat, stop and offer to help,
    and others such helpings. You would want someone to help you right?
    Do unto others! To the extreme, and then the extreme can and will happen for you!
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  9. I know what you mean that's why I don't really like medication BC you get it for one thing and end up needing it for another..you need medication for the medication lol..

    And with exercise..dont do anything strenuous, try walking...simple walking...or yoga..do something slow pace.

    Also, check your posture ...sitting in a slumped/ hunched position could cause heavey breathing and that could lead to experiencing anxiety..

    You'd be surprised how good you feel, if you sit up straight lol...

    Just pm if u need any more help.
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  10. Try searching for the root cause or causes for this anxiety. You will not be able to deal with it until you find the cause.

    I have a friend who has many ailments including mini strokes. She always seems to have something attacking her system. Her father-in-law just went into the hospital multiple times for bypass surgery. She has been consumed with this, spending all her time concerned for him and his well being. When asked how she was doing, she says she has been fine herself. Can you see any reason for why and how this could be?

    Getting to a church is important, since this is an excellent support structure. Many churches have transportation vans which can come pick you up, even if you have to get picked up a block away from where you live. Just call the church you would like to try to see if they have this as an option.
  11. Wow that's actually extremely helpful and detailed. I believe I already do most of these things already, but things like lusting and such is very difficult to make yourself not to do since that involves more than just the conscious part of your brain. Which as my first post says, I've been having trouble with. I can try to stop the conscious part of me from doing so though. I also tend to not go above and beyond to help anyone. Strangers usually yes, although that rarely comes up. But if I sleep in late or just don't feel good, which is most days, I don't do anything for anyone.
  12. Weirdly enough, even walking bothers me now. I walked up the road about a week or 2 ago to take some photos of the farm nearby and my chest pressure came back and was so strong the whole time.

    The root of the cause is probably a mix of a few things. The major things is our financial situation. We are in tens of thousands of dollars in debt, bank loans, credit cards and such just to stay afloat. We eat really unhealthy food from my stepdad's pizza shop most days just to be able to eat. Can't even afford health or dental insurance and both my mom and I are in danger of losing teeth due to it. And now my stepdad is threatening to kick me out of the house if I don't work as he seems to think I'm making these physical symptoms up because he doesn't believe in any mental problems unless the person is "crazy". Like I keep saying, I WANT to work, it's not that I don't want to. That's why I tried multiple times so far and still couldn't complete a full day because of it.
    That's probably the root of it since this is a byproduct of it, but myself. Not being able to work on myself and help make my own life better is killing me inside. I feel like nothing because I'm 23, still can't drive or have a job and rely 100% on my parents (through God of course). I don't want to do that and not being able to just makes me feel like I'm nothing.
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  13. I'm 24, still at home as well...ive been trying to get my license but financial issues keep coming up...so I know how you feel :/....

    All we can do is keep on moving
  14. Brother, you need to try medication. You have a chemical imbalance and there is no need in you suffering when there are viable treatments available. God allows us the knowledge to make medicines that help us. Take advantage of it.
  15. It's not wrong to look at the opposite sex, it's wrong to imagine yourself having sex with them.
    It's not wrong to admire their beauty, it's the lust that leads to adultery.
    When tempted keep 1 Corinthians 10:13 in your mind;
    For there has no temptation taken you but such as is common to man, but God is faithful
    who will not suffer you to be tempted beyond what you are able; but will also with the temptation make a way to escape, that you may be able to endure it.
    For the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations 2 Peter 2:9

    Therefore always look for a way out, the Holy Spirit is always providing a way out of the temptation and leading you away from sin.
    Another thing is to preach the good news - Matthew 28:19-20, for if you believe that Christ is the key to eternal life, and you love others as yourself, you would also want to make sure that others have the key to eternal life as well, right?
    Getting out and sharing the good news,
    or even coming on a forum like this and interacting with others,
    can really help to put your mind back on Christ and away from sin.
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  17. You didn't need to move it, nothing I said is sensitive info to me, just health issues, I don't mind who reads it. It kinda makes things worse on me now that it's moved. Nobody else can reply to it now except for those that already did.
  18. I wish I could. Guess my only chance is that free clinic my doctor recommended. He said he didn't feel right giving me medication because of how young I was.

    Yep, same as me. I think the worst thing right now is that my stepdad threatened to kick me out of the house. He thinks I'm faking and lying about the whole thing so that I don't have to work. That just makes me so angry that he would say that. And he is serious about kicking me out to. He said that he wouldn't even care if I died. This wasn't a heat of the moment thing either, he's been saying that for 2 months now and said my time is almost up.
    I don't know what to do. I've tried working, I've tried pushing myself, but my body just will not let me for some reason and he sees that and thinks I'm just faking it. Do you have any idea how that makes me feel?
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