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Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by SueJLove, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. #1 SueJLove, Sep 18, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2016
    Sunday, September 18, 2016, 5:50 a.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “More Precious Than Silver.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Revelation 18:11-24 (NIV).

    Not Recovered (vv. 11-14)

    “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

    “They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’

    The Lord has been speaking to me about this with regard to the USA. As far as a specific physical place is concerned, I believe America fits the bill for “Babylon the Great” more so than any other nation of this present world.

    The USA is a very wealthy nation, although it is all borrowed money. Our dollar has nothing of value backing it. Our dollar is merely an I.O.U. Our government has squandered the wealth of this nation and has turned our monetary system over to a private entity, i.e. the Federal Reserve. I believe that the federal government of the USA has been purposefully and willfully bankrupting our nation in order to bring her down, so that she can be taken over by the New World Order “Beast.” And, this has been going on for some time now. And, one day soon it is going to all come crashing down.

    I also believe that, at least certain factions within our federal government have been working on the demise of our nation and its present form of government for some time now, and that the ultimate goal is to bring our nation under the rule and order of the New World Order “Beast,” along with all the other nations of the world. Yet, I also believe that our government, although the legal government on paper, has not been the ones ruling our nation for some time now, but that there is a de facto (shadow) government which has been calling all the shots, and that the US government is just the face for this shadow (global, de facto, of the elite) government.

    What this means, in all practicality, is that what we see in the news and in practice, within our government, is largely for show. Our government has no real power other than what is given it by this de facto shadow government of the elite of the world. The real power people nationally and globally are the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Trilateral Commission, the big Banks, CEOs of corporations, some Heads of State, and the Federal Reserve, etc., i.e. the wealthy and elite of the world. They are the ones who are making the decisions concerning who leads what nations. In other words, there is no right and left politically. Have you noticed how many people now are saying that this election process is like none they have ever seen before? Have you ever considered that the whole process is just pure theatre? And, no matter who wins, or even if there is an election, we are still under the rule of this de facto government, and ultimately we are being ruled or will be ruled by this New World Order “Beast”?

    I believe that our government in the USA, under the guidance and leadership of this de facto (shadow) government of the elite of this world, has also been working on the demise of the church (the body of Christ) and the gospel of our salvation. In the early 1950’s they convinced the church, at large, to buy into the 501c3 not-for-profit corporation status, making the church a corporation (human business) under the headship of the federal government of the USA, but really under this de facto (shadow) government, which is global, not national. And, they introduced government worship into the gatherings of the church via the pledge of allegiance (vow of fidelity) to the US government, via the singing of patriotic songs in worship services, and via the honoring and worship of the US (international) military forces as our heroes and saviors, and as the ones who are keeping us safe.

    Now there is talk of handing the internet over to a private entity, which has already been serving in some function with regard to the internet globally. Wikipedia says: “ICANN's primary principles of operation have been described as helping preserve the operational stability of the Internet; to promote competition; to achieve broad representation of the global Internet community; and to develop policies appropriate to its mission through bottom-up, consensus-based processes.” Now, purportedly, by October 1st, the internet is to be totally under the control of ICANN, if I am understanding this correctly. There is, as well, much concern that this will mean loss of freedom of speech, and censorship enforced, in particular in connection with freedom of speech with regard to personal faith in Jesus Christ and in the sharing of his full gospel message.

    Yet, this may be just another phase of their overall goal of destroying the church and the gospel of Jesus Christ, for they – these wolves in sheep’s clothing - have been working from within the church to destroy it for some time now. Especially, of late, it has become quite evident that the plan is to destroy all which divides us as the people of the world, which must necessarily include the demise of the full (true) gospel message. They do not want anyone confronting anyone with sin in their lives, but they want the world to live as one people in unity with one another regardless of faith or walks of life. They have tagged those of us who preach the full gospel message as religious extremists, hatemongers, bigots and intolerant. And, their goal is to do away with us or to reprogram us, because we are working against their global goals of bringing the whole world together in unity.

    So, one day soon all our fruit, wealth, luxury, splendor and freedoms are going to vanish, and, as a nation, we will be brought under this rule of the “Beast,” which is this one-world tyrannical and totalitarian government.

    In One Hour (vv. 19c-20, 23b-24)

    In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’
    “Rejoice over her, you heavens!
    Rejoice, you people of God!
    Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
    For God has judged her
    with the judgment she imposed on you.”

    …Your merchants were the world’s important people.
    By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
    In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
    of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

    Yet, in all of this, we are to regard our Lord as more precious than any of our worldly possessions. And, we must remember, too, that he is completely sovereign over all which he has created, and that he is fully in control over all which takes place in this world, and none of this will catch him by surprise. He has a plan and a purpose for it all, one of which, I believe, is to revive his wayward church in order to make them ready for when he returns for his bride, and also to bring many people in the world to salvation.

    Much of the church here in America has become so worldly, that it is barely distinguishable between the world and the church anymore. Those who call themselves Christians, for the most part, live just like the world lives, in many respects, and God is largely ignored. So, judgment is needed in order to bring the Lord’s people back to him to where they can truly sing this song (below) and mean it. The Lord needs to be our treasure and the joy of our lives, not the pleasures and possessions of this world.

    More Precious Than Silver / Lynn DeShazo

    Lord, You are more precious than silver.
    Lord, You are more costly than gold.
    Lord, You are more beautiful than diamonds,
    And nothing I desire compares with You.
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  2. Greetings SueJLove
    Once again you bring in the 501c3 non profit deal.

    Let's look at this one piece
    The most common type of tax-exempt nonprofit organization falls under category 501(c)(3), whereby a nonprofit organization is exempt from federal income tax if its activities have the following purposes: charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering amateur sports

    You continually speak this as a church doing something wrong and in cahoots with the government.

    If a church does not follow under this tax exempt status I would Stay Away From it.

    When I give unto the Lord whether it be
    First Fruits
    I expect my money (seed) to be used for what it was given for. That means All of it.

    I pay taxes on my own to the goverment.
    Now tell me please, how is paying taxes or another words giving the goverment some of my seed that the Lord directed me to give to Him , unto the goverment a good thing.

    It's not for it is steeling What belongs to God and giving it unto the Goverment.

    Luke 20:25
    One of them showed him a Roman coin, and he asked them whose head and inscription were on it. They answered, "Caesar's," and he responded: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's".

    Why would any Pastor want to give what is God's to the Goverment?

    I am beginning to question or at least wonder why your threads keep falling back to putting down the church (most of them) and the goverment.
    Scripture tells us to pray and lift them up.

    Blessings of Joy

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