The Testing Of Spirits

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by Silk, Jun 26, 2014.

  1. Where? You seem tres optimistic. A good thing no doubt. All who receive Christ as their Lord and Savior are graced with the HS. And someone laying their hands on you does not do it for you.
  2. And Christ, when baptized by John, had nothing to repent and voila - the HS in the shape of a dove came down. But Paul wasn't there then. Maybe he meant John's baptism had to be changed now that Christ had come. Isn't it using biblical language to prove a non-existent current trend?
  3. Every believer receives the Holy Spirit at the moment of conversion!

    1 Corth. 12:13........
    "For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit".

    All believers have the same spirit—the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 1:13 is more specific about the exact moment we receive the Holy Spirit: "In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit."

    Rom. 8:9..........explains simply that
    "Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him."
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  4. The spiritual gifts identified in Romans 12 are prophesying, serving, teaching, encouraging, giving, leadership, and mercy.

    I would disagree that "tongues" are spoken because of the level of spiritual maturity. IMO it is just the opposite of that, and is not Biblical but instead "an act of emotionalism".

    The person doing it wants to be spiritual, wants to manifest the love they have for God and then are overcome by their emotions and before you know it, they are making sounds that no one can understand.

    I know what this comment is going to produce and I have no desire to argue the point with my sister Euphemia. She will have a different opinion and just as I am able to state mine she is able to state hers. So the right thing to do is to identify what "tongues" really are and not what we see being done in churches all over the land today.

    For example, if an English-speaking Christian with the gift of tongues is prompted by the Spirit to speak in Chinese, then this believer will not understand his own speech, which is the essence of the miracle. Nevertheless, the speech is real Chinese, and though the speaker cannot understand the foreign tongue, anyone who knows the Chinese language would understand the speech perfectly.

    So a "tongue" is not a strange, nonhuman pattern of speech. On the contrary, it is normal human language, though a language the speaker himself does not naturally understand. It was a DIALECT that was understood!!!

    We can see this truth at work in Acts 2, when thousands of new Jewish Christians began to speak in unknown tongues at Pentecost. In Acts 2:4-8. we see that these "tongues" were normal, human languages that many foreigners in the crowd could understand naturally:

    Acts 2:6 And when this sound occurred, the crowd came together, and were bewildered because each one of them was hearing them speak in his own language.
    Acts 2:7 They were amazed and astonished, saying, “Why, are not all these who are speaking Galileans?
    Acts 2:8 “And how is it that we each hear them in our own language to which we were born?
    Acts 2:9 “Parthians and Medes and Elamites, and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,
    Acts 2:10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
    Acts 2:11 Cretans and Arabs — we hear them in our own tongues speaking of the mighty deeds of God.”

    The miracle of the moment was the way the speakers themselves couldn't understand the words coming out of their own mouths, but this didn't require that they speak in gibberish or "mysterious" tongues. They simply spoke in foreign languages they didn't previously know. Truly, that was a miracle.

    So, speaking in tongues is never a practice of uttering gibberish or chanting repetitive sounds that we see done today. The fact that so much of what passes as "speaking in tongues" today is clearly nothing more than babbling gibberish is our first clue that the modern-day practice of speaking in "tongues" is rife with error and false displays, rather than being a true work of the Spirit.

    The ONE and ONLY reason for men to speak in a "tongue" was to spread the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and what we see today does nothing but harm the cause for Christ.
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  5. Gotta say thanks to CFS Admin. for getting rid of those obnoxious buttons. They only cause hurt feelings and get backs. HoooRay.
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  7. You didn't like the optimistics? :)
  8. I don't know if they were good or bad or somewhere in between. I like the idea that all the different choices have been removed!
  9. Actually Where - from you I did. I mainly didn't like the disagree or dislike buttons. One person went thru all my posts and slapped them with whatever disagree? So I slapped them back (less) but it was stupid and I took them all off - unasked. The other didn't bother. If you disagree - type it out. Let everyone know, not just the target. I never used the button again - either of them.
  10. Absolutely agreed! They became nothing more than "weapon" which was weilded from those that did not have the ability to speak to others clearly and effectually.

    I hated them! (The choices, not the people).
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  11. Actually, folks, it's your own look out, if you don't want to follow scripture and "test the spirits" that come to you. If it's from God, it will welcome your testing. If it doesn't conform to scripture and "looks" disrespectful - yanno - walks like a duck, etc. I swiped a video from another thread (thanks Noble) but seeing as no one wants to take the time to watch - I'll just give a url - 1st pick: Warning Kundalini demon Spirits will DECEIVE You.
  12. What the heck:

    And Part 2


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