Porn

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by ThomasA, Jun 5, 2014.

  1. So, porn is a generally accepted thing in our society for some reason. Thankfully, not so much in Christianity, however, that's not to say that some of us, myself included, have a problem due to it. The bible mentions that lusting and wanting to have sex with a person is like you already commited the act of having sex with them, meaning, if you are watching porn, it's lusting and therefore a sin. Most christians already know and believe this. And I personally believe that if you are with somebody, dating or full blown married, that it's pretty much cheating as you need to watch someone else instead of the person you are with.
    HOWEVER, just because we know it's wrong, doesn't mean some of us don't have a problem with it, by actively viewing it even though we know we shouldn't.
    Personally, I have had this problem since I was about 15 years old and I'm going on 22 years old. I HATE the fact that I still have this problem, and I want to stop. I'm finding it so much more difficult to control my urges than I anticipated. I've tried so hard with pure willpower, with praying and reading the bible, I just can't seem to control it the way I'd like.
    Does anyone know what I can do? Maybe I'm not praying as good as I should? Do you or did you have this problem and have tips for me? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    P.S: I have a problem with adding a lot of commas in some places that should start a new sentence, so yeah, lol.
     
  2. I never understood why natural sexual urges and sin conflict but they do.

    I'm afraid it's time for you to get married.
     
  3. #3 LysanderShapiro, Jun 5, 2014
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    Porn itself wasn't something I struggled with in recent years, but certainly lustful thoughts and things of that nature were.

    My answer is controversial here -- to some of you, I am not pushing an agenda, but answering the question honestly.

    It was prayer, but specifically, it was praying the Rosary everyday. Taking time in silence, focusing on the life of Christ and praying in persistence. Christ's mercy and strength through this form of prayer has been an incredible source of help for me in fighting temptation, fear, and growing closer to Him. The controversy especially is the idea of trying to meditate on His life through the eyes of the blessed mother, Mary. Trying to imagine the Gospel the way she may have seen it.

    I respect this is something many of you will reject, but what we do have in common is prayer. If refuse to pray the Rosary, as you might, consider praying with a paternoster (a series of Our Fathers).
    This is a paternoster.
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    Another idea is to commit to writing a full page letter to God everyday bringing to Him your thanks and your needs for Him. And then when you've finished writing it, read it out loud, maybe more than once.

    The reason why I highly recommend these kinds of prayers is because they require your mind and heart, but also your hands and your lips.

    Do it daily, especially when you are feeling most tempted. I guarantee you, the more you do this, the easier it becomes to fight the temptation until it isn't even on your mind at all.
     
  4. Instead, let the Spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes. Put on your new nature, created to be like God—truly righteous and holy. (Ephesians 4:23, 24 NLT)

    "Let the Spirit" is important.

    The Spirit alone gives eternal life. Human effort accomplishes nothing. And the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life. (John 6:63 NLT)

    How foolish can you be? After starting your new lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort? (Galatians 3:3 NLT)

    This is something I have to do daily, let the Holy Spirit renew my mind. Sanctification is a life long process. I have noticed the days that I don't spend quality time with Him are the days I struggle. Obedience is also important. Partial obedience is the same as disobedience. I'd like to tell you it gets easier, but that's not the case, not for me anyway. He is faithful.

    And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day when Christ Jesus returns. (Philippians 1:6 NLT)
     
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  5. You are not alone my friend. I had this problem for well over a decade and was extremely difficult to get rid of because after a while, the demonic foothold becomes a stronghold which makes it harder to deal with. I still struggle with lustful thoughts now and again, but the porn addiction has been laid to rest. My deliverance came (and I remember it vividly) when I stopped acting like a victim and begging and pleading for Christ to take the lustful thoughts away through prayer. Although we should always pray and I was correct in doing so, I was still acting like a victim and praying the wrong way. The Lord gave me a revelation and with the help of His word complimented by a book called Spirit Wars by Kris Vallotton I learned a new way to pray, offensively!

    I stopped being the victim and used the authority given to me by God to command any evil spirits dwelling within me to leave in the name of Jesus Christ (spoken out loud and with authority). I not only commanded the evil spirits to leave in the name of Jesus, but also prayed that God would use His Spirit to torture those that had been torturing me for so long, that way if they ever thought about coming back, they would know that the wrath of God would be upon them. After this session of prayer/deliverance, it was like a weight had been lifted off of my shoulders, I felt it immediately. I then humbled myself before God and asked for forgiveness and repented of my sin. Use the authority that God has given to you through His Grace. That's what it's there for. This is a tough battle brother, I will be praying for you.
     
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  6. This is great! I too have to wash my thoughts with the blood of Jesus and let the HS renew my mind, a couple times a day sometimes.
     
  7. Scientifically men are stimulated by visual input and it causes a chemical reaction (dopamine) in the brain that is addictive - hence the cycle of watch, repent, watch, repent, watch, repent. This is true of any sin really. Also, most Christians don't follow the basic fundamental biblical advice about renewing their mind God's way and instead allows the devil to. Watching porn rewires your brain and believe it or not actually shrinks the judgement center (LINK) and is the cause of mental instability and anxiety (LINK) and in the end takes the pleasure out of the actual act (LINK).

    There are two things at play here: the spiritual and the physical. Spiritually the devil has it plastered everywhere and over the years it becomes more and more flagrant and will become more and more worse because of the prophecies about Lot and Noah. Ever notice after almost any video is completed, YouTube shows some girl's back side? Very sad. Since the physical is an addiction you have to stop cold-turkey and allow the spiritual to take its place. Any void not replaced by the Spirit will return. To do that you have to renew your mind daily. How? First you have to use your brain.

    I used to remember the very first nude photo I saw when I was 6 or 7. That image has never faded until I asked the Lord how to get rid of it. It is indeed all in the mind, just as Paul says in Romans 7:25 and 12:1-2 by actively controlling what you think about. Claiming the blood of Jesus isn't just a poetic metaphor, but real. Take any magazine page or newspaper and using red paint, paint over it until you can't read it. Now that you have that new image in your head, take any image stuck in your brain - all of them eventually - and paint over them with your imagination using the blood of Jesus and what He did for you on the cross until that image is gone. Only God can do this and help you recall them all. In fact you need to do this to any thought that is contrary to the will of God. David did it!

    Psalms 139:23-24 (KJV)
    Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if [there be any] wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

    We cannot know what seed has been planted in the ground of our hearts (mind), therefore, like Adam, YOU must tend your own garden. This is how you do it:

    2 Corinthians 10:5-6 (KJV)
    Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

    Philippians 4:8-9 (KJV)
    Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things. Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

    If you do these things you will have control over your thoughts. Satan will try to plant new seeds (not hard since they're everywhere) but you must reject it and "paint" over them with the Blood of Jesus. It really works. I cannot recall that image from my youth, which had been with me for decades, nor any other I've seen over my lifetime. Then learn to respect God's creation and no longer commit fornication with your mind or cheat on your spouse - because that is what it is. Get into the habit of focusing on someone's nose instead of examining their body parts. You won't be recalling their nose, but you would something else and that is the seed of a weed. You are the only one that can do it through Jesus.
     
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  8. Like any addiction, the longer you go without, the easier it it will be. I'm going to assume this is Internet porn, since magazines and DVDs could just be thrown away. Prayer will only work when your heart wants it to, and if that longing exists in your heart.....

    So, if you want some technical help, you could do one of two things.
    1) Your home router may have a children or family filter. Set the filter to block porn accordingly. Then, ask a friend or someone to change the password on your router and not tell you. Your router will block you and you won't be able to undo your changes.

    2) DNS (Domain Name Service) is how your computer looks up IP Addresses. There is a free service called OpenDNS (www.opendns.com). You create an account and can set family filters here. Filter out porn and anything else you don't want to surf to. Enter their DNS settings in your router (they have a great tutorial) and again, ask a buddy to change the password. He'll need to change the password at the opendns site as well to keep you from undoing your changes.

    The way I see it, if you can't view the porn easily, it will become "out of sight, out of mind", and allow your mind to focus on what is really important. Hope this helps.
     
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  9. OK, so you seem to be expecting some negativity to your suggested method of combating lust?
    Well....I can't or rather shouldn't comment on the purely RC parts of your suggestions however your idea of letter writing is excellent.
    Only draw back I can see would be if married men left their letters lying around for their wives to find and read.:eek:
     
  10. Oh absolutely. I forgot to say burn it right afterwards.
     
  11. I've had trouble on and off with it over the years. Generally for me it seems to be in direct relation to how 'close my walk is with God', namely if I am spending time in Holy Scripture and praying regularly. If I do not do these things many sins tend to creep in and get a foothold.

    When I feel tempted strongly, I try to read some relevant Scripture such as parts of Matthew chapter 5. Normally it will take away my desire to do it. This type of sin I believe we are instructed to flee, so getting away from the computer, television or whatever the source is and going outside for a walk or something else may help? Obviously doing everything practicable to keep the stuff out of the home and unavailable is important but the bottom line is if you really want it typically you will end up finding a way to get it.

    I have noticed the pattern that often brings the sin back for me. First it's not being disciplined with prayer and time in the Scripture. Then I start letting my eyes linger too long on women I pass by during the day. Then I start innocently leafing through things like WalMart and Target ads, catalogs that come in the mail, etc., thinking oh it's not so bad to admire, but it is just one more step in the chain for me. Then if it progresses further through little things like that eventually it ends up pornography and those terrible feelings of guilt and the consequences that come with it.

    I would also say that there may be a particular habit that men might engage in along with the pornographic material which I learned more recently can be very destructive one's health by loss of various vitamins and vitality basically, a slow death it causes if engaged in too often (more info).

    Currently I pray and try to maintain discipline as much as possible. I always sort the mail outside right near the rubbish bin. Any type of ad or catalog that might contain images that might start me down the path I immediately throw out. I don't get many of those things but I moved recently and many such catalogs seem to come in the mail addressed to the former resident, I really feel it is a test.

    Part of my plan is to keep printed out relevant parts of Scripture near areas where I might be tempted by pornorgraphic material, such as near the computer. I think maybe fleeing from the computer or keeping those verses in plain view at the computer might be helpful. The time to get the verses set up is probably before the temptation comes. Otherwise for me at least by the time I'm that far down the road to almost viewing pornographic materials those verses are very far from my mind.
     
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