Our mortal enemy has deceived the church with many lies

Discussion in 'Doctrinal Discussions' started by Samuels, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. I have to agree twice here. ....
    1. I am totally on board with knowing your enemy and am in the middle of a powerful thread to be posted soon.

    2. It is better to stay on point here since the "Topic" Rapture is now on the banned for discussion here at cfs.
    Item #8

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  2. Hello there,

    If our eyes are stayed on Christ, our Saviour, our Lord, our Head, then all areas of dispute become meaningless, for in Christ Jesus our risen and glorified Lord, we are above all principality and power and might and dominion, and that includes the enemy of our souls. He has no means of separating us from Christ our Saviour, or from the Love of God in Him. We are of all people most secure, and of all people most blessed.

    The mighty power with which Christ was raised from the dead is the same power that is at work within and through us. So, we can live rejoicing every day for the gospel of the grace of God that has saved us through the sacrificial work of Christ our Saviour, giving glory to His Name, and the world will know by the fruit that we bear that He is alive.

    That is our work and witness.
    All else is religion.

    In Christ Jesus
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  3. This is exactly what God's prophets and watchmen have been receiving from the Lord very recently!
    Soon, you will not be making it through ... without a real close relationship where He will be leading and guiding you.
    Prepare now ... later just won't cut it.
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  4. Yes So it in important for all those that call upon the Lord to prepare for His return.
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  5. Exactly !
    If we do not learn how to walk in All His ways and Build or Faith up strong and steadfast and know how to use or operate within His word.......we will struggle just as much as an unsaved in this day and age.

    This means the carnal Christian will toil much just to make ends meet.
    This is not the time for a lazy Christian or a Christian who is relying on their human understanding of things at all.
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  6. Thanks for your post. I agree with all you
    Thanks for your post. I agree with everything you say but I would add a note of caution. If we are tr truly The Lord's then it will be The Holy Spirit who gives us the desire to submit to His sanctifying work in our lives and not merely human effort alone. Hope you didn't mind this small comment.
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  7. Not just prepare for His return, but prepare for:
    -- the horrible persecution of Christians
    -- the horrible reign of the antichrist
    -- the horrible pressure to take the mark of the beast

    One of God's reasons for all of this is to separate
    the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the tares, etc.
    i.e. to prove whose faith is really genuine!
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  8. No, of course not ... this needs to be #1 on the believer's list of understanding!
    Thank you!
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  10. One thing at a time.
    IMO, this submitting and resisting is a necessary part of overcoming.
    And this has nothing to do with the grace-only OSAS doctrine.

    Please notice that Jesus was obedient and successful in doing this.
    Rev 3:21
    "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne,
    as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."
    Yes man has free will and often we us it, wether for good or evil.
  11. Jacqueline, I find your post #71 confusing.
    Would you mind re-doing it, or explaining it.
  12. What post was that?
  13. Number 71.. Three up from this one
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  14. Ok, man was given free will. We choose to be obedient to the Word of God or disobey it.
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  15. #76 Major, Sep 17, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2016
    Jim. I hate to say this but even "Skeptics Forums" discuss the deeper things of theology that we are permitted from doing. I am not complaining, just stating the facts.

    I know that the banned topics lead to confrontations and anger. But it seems to me that those times could be administered to by the moderators as they come up. When a confrontation appears it could be then that the topic is closed or other measures taken if the responders can not control themselves.
    Yes that would make the moderators job more challenging but insn't that what they are for?

    My concern is that there are so many believers that simply do not know what they believe or why they believe it. They hear a man give his opinion and then they base their theology on that opinion instead of the Word of God.
    It just seems to me that there should be a way to get the Word of God to those people instead of saying
    "We do not talk about those things because they are to sensitive".

    When an Ostrich sticks his head in the sand to get away from the Tiger chasing him, all that happens is the Tiger doesn't have to run him down to eat him. The point is that the Ostrich does not get away by ignoring the challenge.
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  16. Agreed.
  17. Yes man has free will and often we us it, wether for good or evil.[/QUOTE]

    IMO we can not resist Satan until we submit ourselves to the Lord Jesus Christ. That must be the case Biblically because we were once lost and children of Satan and had no desire to resist that which we followed.

    Ephesians 2:1-5..............
    "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)."
  18. 1 Thess. 5:9..........
    "For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ".

    Zeph 2:3 .............
    "Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands. Seek righteousness, seek humility; then you will be sheltered on the day of the Lord's anger."

    Christians need not fear the wrath of God. We have God's promise that we are His chosen. It is true that we should fear God, since He "bought us" and He has been known to put His servants through some pretty severe tests, but we have nothing to fear about God's wrath if we believe in and follow Christ. Wrath is not for the children of God. God may discipline, rebuke, or test us, but this is always constructive--for our good!
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  19. Hi Major,
    Could you elaborate a little deeper here and make it a little more clear what you wanted me to get from this?

    • Disclaimer if the word You is used it is used as a general term such as anybody and not Directed to any one said person.

    See sir the problem stems from how members interact one with another with discussions on certain topics.
    So eventually it comes down to either having to baby sit far too many threads and sort through the Offensive replies and discuss the appropriate action to take or simply head it off at the pass and ban the topic.

    So one must try to understand that cfs policies on banned topics are Not from choices that the administration simply decides on But How Members Interact with each other on certain topics in the open forum.

    Moral of this story would be....for members tooooooooo
    Stop Arguing and Getting Rude and taking the stand that your thoughts are the only correct ones with certain topics.......see it is the members who bring the bans on certain topics not the staff.

    Bottom line my friend is it is just as hard on me or any of us when it comes to trying to discuss things without discussing some things.

    Have a great day my Brother
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