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Need A Good Legal Downloading Site

Discussion in 'Technology and Internet' started by Preacher, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. Need A Good Legal Downloading Site

    I know there's tons of illegal sites where I can get free songs, but I can't bring myself to go that route. I've found some sites where you can pay a monthly membership, but I'm on dial-up(DSL not available) so I'm not sure a monthly membership would be cost effective for me, unless it was dirt cheap. Most of my downloads would take place late at night when I know my connection won't be interrupted due to phone calls.

    I've found several for 89 and 99 cents a song, but I remember someone telling of places that had them for 49 cents and cheaper. I can't remember the name and haven't been able to find any by searching.

    Anyhow, I'm not ruling out a monthly membership. But if I do go that route, can I get membership for a month and then cancel?

    I know very little about this stuff, so if I've asked a dumb or illegal question, please forgive me and please correct me. :)
  2. Hey, I'm new here, but I think I can help ya out. I know Walmart.com sells mp3 downloads for 74 cents each. I have never heard nor seen one at 49 cents. That seems extreamly low and I don't think they can even legally sell it for that cheap. 74 cents is the cheapest I've seen them. The only other way, and I don't know if its legal or not, is to download the youtube music video of the song your looking for, then strip out the video part.

    Goodluck, I would probably go the walmart way, better quality and less work for your time and money!
  3. Hey Preacher, PM me with exactly what songs and music you want i might be able to help you. Might be also lead you to a good side to download - P2P sharing. Cheers Jake
  4. P2P sharing is illegal :-/
  5. Ive used Amazon before to get albums I wanted to purchase for a considerable lower amount that what I can buy in the store.

    I like Amazon as opposed to ITunes, because it allows me to copy the music to any device I want to in my household.

    Actually P2P sharing is only illegal if the owner of the copyright does not agree to the duplication of the work in question. And P2P legalities/copyright law vary from nation to nation as well.
  6. Yes i would have to agree with mocrohard, its upto the owner of the copyright to give permission for the music to be distributed for duplication. There are other ways of downloading but i guess i would not go into it further.

  7. I know this isn't probably what you want to hear but I'd just use iTunes.
  8. I understand that is can be legal, but when you talk about getting music for free by downloading it from others, it is usually illegal, pretty much... if you get music for free... it's usually illegal.
  9. Diosadentro,

    What actually happens is some kind person actually buys the cd and decides that he wants to share it. So he basically rips the cd (remember now that he is the owner of the cd since he has purchased it with his own money) with the songs now on his computer stored as an mp3. He then uploads it onto his site or loads it on a tracker program which i won't mention. People download of this and basically it becomes known as a file sharing program. So it no longer goes against the copyright laws.

    On the other hand these sites make money by saying that by downloading from us you are doing it the legal way. Think of it, they sell each track for 0.99c or even 0.49c for that matter. If an album has 15 tracks on it for e.g. that will cost the buyer $15. Im guessing if you walk down to the store you could probably get the cd a lesser price or the same. Makes no difference those sites make their money anyway.

  10. This is info I found on limewire

    • Even if you download a coyrighted song for your own personal use, it's still illegal. Perhaps one could skate around the issue if they already own a legal copy on a CD, but then why download it if that's the case. Any fees paid to LimeWire are for purchasing the software and that's it.

    • LimeWire is not illegal software. All it is is file sharing. However, many people abuse this by sharing songs without the copyright. For example, if you have produced a song and then share it on LimeWire, anyone else can legally have it for free. But when you haven't made it, but an artist has, who has copyright on that song (which they all do) downloading that song without permission from the producer is totally illegal.

    • Downloading songs and other copyrighted material is illegal, but if you wanted to share a music file of you singing or playing an instrument, then that is perfectly legal.

    • LIMEWIRE IS ILLEGAL! Although, with LimeWire, you will probably never get caught, if you as much as bring your computer in for a repair and a worker sees the program or any music you downloaded from LimeWire, he is ordered BY LAW to tell his boss, and you will get a fine (I had to pay approximately $200.) It's not pretty. Although we all want LimeWire to be legal, it isn't.

    • The LimeWire software itself is not illegal -- that is why the site is still up and why you can still download it. However, if you download a song from the program and you do not pay copyright on it, that is illegal. Songs from the 1950's (or before that date) are legal to download because their copyright has expired. Anything from after that is illegal to download. However... You are all going to do it anyway, so this is just to make you aware of the legal situation!

    • Is LimeWire illegal? No, it is not. It CAN'T legally be held accountable for what its users do. Let's put it like this: A major virus takes out the whole of the Internet. But when they trace the source, it leads to Runescape servers, for example. Runescape is an online game that gives its users access to its servers, kind of like LimeWire. Now are the people who own Runescape responsible? Nope, but its users ARE. Same thing with LimeWire. My advice to you is this: Do not use it to access "free" music, or "free" programs... images... and so on and so forth. I have had my fair share of songs I got from LimeWire. And if I could, I would return them to the artists and companies that worked hard to make them.
    WikiAnswers - Is downloading songs from Limewire illegal or legal
  11. You know what, i have actually read all those conditions and terms on their website many a time before and not one of them makes proper sense. One point says that Limewire is not illegal! and the next point says that Limewire is illegal.

    - All those points down there are made up by limewire in a sense to protect their company and their software , get more sales etc. As long as they declare that they don't have control over what their users do they are playing it safe.

    - Limewire itself is a software that instigates people to use it illegally even it if its meant for legal purposes. Tell me which songwriter/composer or musician will give people the right to download their own music free off the web. (Impossible). Every composer has their own copyright policies protecting them.

    - In my knowlege of working with computers no one has ever got one of our customers in trouble by saying that he/she had limewire installed and has downloaded lots of copyrighted material.

    This can go on and on and trustme limewire and other sites are making their money on the sly and fooling us into believing that what we are doing is illegal. If what they doing is making us do something illegal then why sell the software in the first place? Keeping in mind that permission from artists be given. It makes no sense, limewire would have got banned/sued aages ago and stopped selling their product.

  12. I don't want to turn this into an arguement, but the reason Limewire has not been sued is because, they have a disclaimer when you go to download it that says will you use limewire for illegal copyright infringement.

    I'm not saying I don't use it sometimes, but I do know... that the more you use it the more risk there is that you will be caught. Downloading music for free without the author's knowledge that you are doing so with music that you must pay for everywhere else does make it illegal, and if everyone did it and it was legal, you would not be able to enjoy the music you are downloading. Thus, sometimes I use limewire for songs i can not find... But I usually try to buy them so the artist can make money and produce new songs for me to enjoy..

    Plus, you risk downloading viruses on limewire, along with unwanted pornography. In my experiences, places that are very common for porn, virus, and free music are usually not legal places to buy popular music.

    Having limewire is not illegal, but the way you are using it is... Thats what those bullets were trying to say. It is a very legal way for people to share music they created, or share files they created, but when you use it to share files you have not created... without the artists or authors concent makes it illegal.

    here is some more info found online:

    Limewire Basic is absolutely free:

    The "Pro" version of the software is also available for download as well, for a one-time cost of $18.88.

    As far as legality, there is nothing illegal about the software. The distribution of copyrighted works is, however, illegal. All peer-to-peer protocols (Gnutella, Bitorrent, etc..) are, in theory, designed to give independent artists and others a way to easily distribute their music and other materials to a large audience cheaply and easily. Most people, however, have found these networks to be an easy and bountiful forum for sharing with complete strangers the contents of their entire music libraries (among other things, such as software, and movies.)

    The MPAA (The Motion Picture Association of America)and RIAA (The Recording Industry Association of America) have been battling the makers of these types of software since their inception. They have, for the most part, failed.

    Other steps have been taken by those representing the interests of copyright holders, such as flooding peer-to-peer networks with bogus files, which, in theory, makes downloading pirated music less attractive. The RIAA has also made headlines in the past couple years in taking steps to bring legal action against file-sharers. The people on whom legal action has been brought have all been people that the RIAA has determined to be a sharing a "large" number of copyrighted works, meaning those that have made the files available for download, rather than those who are doing the downloading.

    In short, the software is fine, sharing illegal materials is not (regardless of whether it is done for a profit.)


    The companies are going after the file-sharers because if you cut the source, all the downloaders stop too, but they do acasionally go after the downloaders, especially if they find you have been downloading hundreds and hundreds of songs. Basically use limewire at your own risk.

    Upstate Woman Sued For Sons' Music Downloads - Greenville News Story - WYFF Greenville

    Thats just one example I found real quick. So, I'm not telling you not to do it, just be careful.
  13. The issue is that in the long run, there is just no way that either the RIAA or the MPAA is going to completely stop file sharing. The movie nor music industry was ever prepared for the advent of the Internet.

    If they want to prevent copy theft, they can always go back to vinyl for music and not put out movie DVD's anymore. (just like the old days)

    Plus do what they can to put the CDRW and DVDRW industries out of business......that will prevent people from ripping the content out and putting on the Internet in the first place.....
  14. Since this is a christian website don't y'all have issues with stealing?
  15. Ok im not going to say anymore on this, its not getting us anywhere. I think we each understand our own ways and do what we think is right.

    I would not call is stealing. Its basically copying what other people have decided to share on the internet from their purchases. Simple!

  16. I usually use it to find songs that I just can not find anymore, since their old, or my music software does not carry them. Otherwise I just buy a zune marketplace 25 dollar card, its nice because I can download right from the device.
  17. DVD is here to stay, vinyl is for the most part gone (as are tapes). Rewritable CD's and DVD's are important storage media and won't be shelved so I guess they will need another solution.
  18. Yes we care but as you can see there is a lot of confusion over this wiht the average person. I personally used to believe that if I bought a CD it was my property. With the buying and seeling of indiviual songs it has gotten really hard to control what folks will do with them.

    Here is a ?, when I buy music (yes I still buy CD's) is it legal for me to make a back up? I have always taken backup copies inmy car and kept the original discs in their cases.
  19. Sorry, I see nearly everything in extreme black or white.

    Yes, it's legal to make a backup of something you legally purchased. It is NOT legal to share or distribute music for free or for profit that is someone else's work. I know that if I played music for a living and people wanted to buy a few CD's and then distribute the rest for free, I'd be upset.
  20. Whoa, sorry folks, didn't mean to open a can of worms. But I feel led to make this comment.

    First of all, thanks for the gracious offers of help. But here's the problem. When you buy a music CD that's copyrighted, you do not buy the music, you buy "permission to use" the music. And if you do not own the rights, you do not have permission to give it away. Let me use an example to clarify.

    My neighbor has made the gracious offer to allow me to use his garage and tools anytime I please. And believe me, I take full advantage of that offer quite frequently. But that does not give me ownership of the garage or it's contents. I simply have "permission to use." I do not have permission to go in and share his tools with whomever I wish. I don't have the right to "share" his hammer, I don't have permission to give away his wrenches.

    Another example is that the electric company in my area has purchased a right-of-way through my property to run power lines. They have rights to use the land, but they don't own it. They can maintain their equipment without permission, but if they want to change then they have to get permission. They don't have the right to sell lots and build houses along this right-of-way as they don't own the land. But they have "permission to use."

    I've heard people say that "the Gospel is free" and what these artists are doing by charging for their songs is against the Bible. But think about this logic and do we apply it evenly??? Suppose we want to share the Gospel with a friend. Does that give us the right to walk into a store and take a Bible without paying for it simply because the Gospel is free???

    Yes, the Gospel is free. But simply put, the paper, the binding, the ink, the printing presses and the overall service is not free. So we wouldn't take a Bible from a store without paying for it.

    As far as making a back-up copy, I see no issues with that as you are still using it for your own personal use. You are not distributing copies to others by doing this.

    If I have violated any rules by posting this, then I humbly apologize. My intentions are not to flame, but for instruction.

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