Ministering to the Homosexual community

Discussion in 'Evangelism' started by blessed, Jan 4, 2011.

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  1. You would think ministering to homosexuals is like ministering to any other category of wicked people. In addition to Romans 1:27 which explicitly calls out homosexuality as a depraved behavior, Paul lists both the homosexual and the effeminate along side with people like the greedy, thieves and drunkards (alcoholics) in 1Cor 6:9,10.

    So it would seem that from a Biblical perspective ministering to homosexuals is like ministering to alcoholics or the greedy and the like. A greedy person can argue that he sees nothing wrong with his greediness, but that greedy comes so natural to him that he must have been born that way. The alcoholic could argue that alcoholism was in his genes. The thief could argue that cannot but steal. It's what comes natural to him, and he may feel no guilt for doing so. I don't see the kind of arguments homosexuals make for their behavior as have much more validity than these.

    Homosexuality is not a gender, it's a behavior. It along with other such sins as tranvestites and the effeminate are sinful because these rejects one's God given gender and as such rejects the author of that gender.
     
  2. No cover on the net :p. James 5:19-20 19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
     
  3. Whenever someone is battling with the flesh in a mortal sin we HAVE to determine if they are 'in' or 'out' of Christ. If in, we correct them per Matt 18:15-17. If out, we share the gospel and give some extra effort to wielding the word with skill, not chop them in half. Not water down! But share little nuggets until they thirst for more.
     
  4. Homosexuals are not sinful. When did you choose to be heterosexual?
     
  5. Are you a Christian Miylee?
     
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  6. Was this thread created in 2011?
    Huh? What's your definition of sinful? You do know this is a Christian forum right?
     
  7. Name calling is not permitted here.
     
  8. Awe man, I was just ready to reply to Miylee :(
     
  9. Reply with love, but name calling is still not permitted.
     
  10. Is this to me? Homosexuality is not a choice, just like being a pedophile is not a choice right? Because they would both fall under the same category. They both would say that they were born that way.

    In my humble opinion, beloved, I really think you should actually read the bible, and pray to God for answers. I could show you a bunch of scripture, and prove the truth to you, but without a repented heart I don't think you would accept any of it.

    What's the saying? You can lead a cow to water, but you can't make them drink.

    Please do not be offended or call me a bigot. I am only standing up for what I believe.
     
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  11. Miylee, you're right, being a homosexual is not a sin; acting on the temptation however is, as it then turns to sin.
     
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  12. It's usually a horse, but a cow will do :ROFLMAO:
     
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  13. I thought a homosexual wasn't a homosexual until homosexual activity with another homosexual. If there is no sex, then it can't be homo sexual. But yeah, if just having the temptation of liking the same sex is homosexual then I agree, it is not a sin, until they "come out of the closet" or "into the closet", however that saying goes.
     
  14. I see what you're saying. The naming scheme is about the gender you're attracted to. Hetero (meaning different or other) combined with sexual (meaning gender) - heterosexual - attracted to a different/other/opposite sex/gender. Same with homosexual. Hom or homo (meaning same), so homosexual, attracted to the same sex.
     
  15. Bigot is not a bad word. It is the best descriptive name to describe those who are intolerant of others lifestyles. Intolerant to the point of trying to deny others equal rights.

    Do you all also follow all the other silly laws in Leviticus? It's a sin to eat shellfish, work on the sabbath, get tattoos, etc. I could go on forever. So why are some sins ok but not others?
     
  16. He did not say bad word. He said name calling is not permitted here. And calling someone a Bigot, falls under the category of name calling.

    I don't think any of Gods commandments are "silly." I don't eat shellfish, I don't' work on the sabbath, and I do not have any tattoos.

    So to answer your question, no sin is okay, but at the same time no person is without sin. The issue comes when a person starts accepting sin, and does not have a repenting heart anymore.

    I haven't read every post in this thread, but I don't believe anyone is trying to deny your rights here. I do believe that you are degraded those who are standing firm to their beliefs here by name calling.
     
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  17. I am not degrading anyone. How would you prefer me to describe a bigot. Someone intolerant of others views. Usually someone steeped in ignorance of the subject. Someone frightened of anyone different than themselves. Someone who dehumanizes, judges, and treats others with non Christian values. Someone who does not live by Jesus' teachings and someone who is a hypocrite.

    Bigot seemed easier but there you go. Insert instead of bigot.
     
  18. What does Leviticus have to do with the New Testament? Jesus dismantled this nonsense (the law which does not just consist of the 10 commandments) when he died on the cross.
     
  19. This is a good point. I think it could be said that stating homosexuality was not allowed back then because God was still trying to spread his people all over the world. The problem with that view is that it's brought up in the New Testament as well in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10. Then again, maybe it wasn't homosexuality like we think of today.

    I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it, but I do think that everyone deserves respect. We have these people in churches that are completely intolerant of homosexuals yet wallow in their gossip and judgmental attitudes. Everyone should be accepted in church, even if it's a gay couple.
     
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  20. Nice Christian cop out. Keep this. Oh this part doesn't count. Oh but this does. So the OT doesn't count unless you need to use it to justify your intolerance of
     
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