Ok, I'm not sure what this is trying to say How can anything we declare proper or improper here on earth be the same in heaven? there's probably a group of people who permit, and declare it proper and lawful to get together, and have BDSM orgies whilst bathed in blood. There's probably tons of people who say it is improper to do things that are perfectly normal as well. And what about all these verses about plucking out your eye if it sins and blah blah, I'm sure none of you have done this, but I'm sure someone somewhere probably has, if not hundreds of people. So what is the deal? This is new testament, no longer under the law but of grace correct? no reason to self flagellate, as we are not under our own works, but under faith.