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JESUS FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES TO INTRODUCE HIM!

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by fil3232003, Oct 16, 2011.

  1. Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT:

    Matthew 16:20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.
     
  2. That might have been true for a very brief period during Jesus' earthly life, but it most certainly doesn't have relevance for us today. We are told to go into all the world to preach the Gospel, to make disciples of all nations, and to be His witnesses ... unto the ends of the earth - all of which would be totally impossible without "introducing" people to Jesus, or without telling them that He is indeed the Christ, the Savior of mankind.

    blessings,

    Lynn
     
  3. Is the word of God true only at a certain time? How about the following, that:

    Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    And, Jesus Christ is the Truth. Does it follow now that "truth" is the same all the time? And, how about this?

    Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

    Could it be that, because the recogniton of Simon Peter of JESUS CHRIST came from the revelation of the Father, our Lord also wants people desiring to recognize/identify HIM also must come from the "revelation of the Father?"

    This is how Simon Peter recognized JESUS CHRIST:

    Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
     
  4. The identification of JESUS by Simon Peter must have solved the "great mystery of the Trinity" that has been hidden from ages and from generations, that divided CHRISTIANITY into more than 3000 groups of believers:

    Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
     
  5. Of course the Word of God is true for all time. However, there are some things in the Word that were spoken to specific people in specific situations at specific times. For instance, referring to Herod, Jesus said, "(Luke 13:32) Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected." Does that mean that Christians today should seek out someone called Herod and tell him that Jesus is walking around on earth today and tomorrow doing miracles, and will be crucified the next day? Of course not! That was something for those specific people at that specific time in that specific place. Likewise, His telling the disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Christ was for a specific time and place, whilst His commands to preach the Gospel and to be His witnesses are for all Christians through all generations.

    blessings,

    Lynn
     
  6. Does not the truth from "intented message from the word/circumstance/s" that is true all the time, and not to particular persons or places?

    The topic for this "Thread" is the clear identification of Jesus Christ by Simon Peter that required "divine revelation."
     
  7. The stated topic for the thread is "Jesus forbade His disciples to introduce Him." To me - and I'm sure to other members reading the thread - that sounds like you are saying that He forbade us to witness. If that is what you are saying, then as I have said earlier, it is absolutely not true. For a brief period during His earthly life Jesus forbade His disciples to reveal His identity - probably because the people of the day expected Messiah to come as a military hero and conquer all their earthly enemies, and that was not what He was about. After His death and resurrection, He not only permitted His followers to tell about Him, He actually commanded it.

    If what you are trying to say is that people can only recognize Jesus by divine revelation, then I wholeheartedly agree with you. However, in order to have that revelation they must first be brought to Him. When Peter had his great revelation that "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" he was not a stranger who had never heard of Jesus before, but someone who already knew and had walked with Him.

    Yes, occasionally, as He did with Saul of Tarsus, God will supernaturally confront someone and reveal Christ to him. Most of the time, though, He involves us to make them aware of Jesus and His claims, then gives them the spiritual revelation.

    blessings,

    Lynn
     
  8. I hope I am wrong for what I understand "no one can introduce the "Christ" in a way to clearly identify the Messiah or Savior in the person of JESUS." This requires the "revelation of the Father which is in heaven" as Simon Peter recognized our LORD in His primary role as the "FATHER in the flesh."

    Let us remember it was the FATHER who made the Testament of salvation that requires the "shedding of the blood" of the maker or testator:

    Hebrews 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

    No wonder only the KJV or Authorized Version of 1611 that renders this truth correctly. Other Bible versions avoid the word "GOD" in 1 Timothy 3:16. Let us remember there is only ONE GOD as the FATHER claims in the following:

    Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

    Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

    Of course the Apostles/Disciples and anyone today who has "identified JESUS CHRIST in His two roles" can share this truth about Him, but never able to make the "other person" fully comprehend this "great mystery" about the FATHER being the only SAVIOUR as claimed by Him in:

    Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
     
  9. It is hoped the topic for this THREAD is now clearly understood by the participants on this worthy FORUM.

    "Jesus forbade His Disciples to introduce Him."
     
  10. Fil3232003, just curious, what denomination are you?
     
  11. KingJ, believe it or not, I don't belong to any sect or denomination. I simply read the HOLY BIBLE believing in the following:

    1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    I avoid the following taboos:

    1. Thus, I never rely on "my own understanding."

    Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    2. Rely on anybody regarding God and His words:

    Jeremiah 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm...

    3. Always aware of my deceptive heart:

    Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
     
  12. I am challenging the participants of this worthy FORUM to introduce JESUS CHRIST the way Simon Peter recognized HIM. Simon Peter declared "JESUS is the CHRIST, and "JESUS is the SON of the living God" that required the "revelation of the Father which is in heaven."

    Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
     

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