Huntingteckel
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I think we are having some sort of misunderstanding. Are you a Calvinist?
Irresistible Grace & People "falling Away" From Christianity. How Does This Happen?
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I think we are having some sort of misunderstanding. Are you a Calvinist?
I believe in the doctrine of predestination (some for salvation some for damnation). I don't know if that makes me a Calvinist or not.
It doesn't matter if I know or not because I didn't make me. If God made me knowing that I was going to hell but made me anyway then I was created to be damned.
It is really easy to understand if we use our spiritual mind. The natural human mind just goes blank when trying to understand spiritual things.
Okay. Can I do this? Dare I do this? This is a pet peeve of mine, I admit, a Great Big one!
"Jesus died for all men!!!!" Did He die for women, too?
"All men can be saved if they choose to be saved." May women be saved, too?
Oh, I am going to hate myself in the morning. People don't start writing these things to be mean, but . . . .
"Jesus died for all men!!!!" Did He die for women, too?
"All men can be saved if they choose to be saved." May women be saved, too?
Oh, I am going to hate myself in the morning. People don't start writing these things to be mean, but . . . .
But both Arminians and Calvinists believe that God knew which ones will be damned before creating them. God knows everything from the start.
Huntingteckel
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Alright. I don't have an issue with predestination. I just don't believe that God creates a child in the womb and just because He knows that child will be an atheist doesn't give them the opportunity to be saved.
Technically, yes, but not in reality.
"Men" means "mankind". Jesus appeared to Mary Magdalene first, and then to the apostles. This has to mean something, in my opinion.
God made you to have a free will to choose your destiny. He did not predestinate you to hell. If you do go there it is because you choose to not believe the truth that you can be saved.
Huntingteckel
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I typed out a joke and then deleted it thinking it may offend someone.
Not anymore, my friend. Not in today's world.
Love you anyway!
Huntingteckel
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I have no issue with that. I just don't think that God ignores people because He knows they'll be atheists.
The opportunity is there for everyone, but most people choose to reject it. Those who choose to accept it did this only because God changed their minds. That's the way I see it. Why God doesn't change everybody's mind? Because he has chosen to demonstrate his power and justice on those who are disobedient.
Interesting thought! Maybe a new thread for it?
Men is plural for man. A woman is a man with a womb. hence wo-man. it is not referring to the male species but to mankind. male/female
Without the presence of God, regardless of a man's freewill, how can man ever choose to love God?
My inclination. Oh, my inclination! My inclination was to say things I really would regret.
He can't, that is why we are saved by grace not works.
Huntingteckel
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So God decides not to save some people just show how mean He can be if they disobey which they are only doing because God denied them Christ? That sounds pretty evil to me. Calvinism makes God the author of evil, and I don't worship an evil author.
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