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How And Why Is The Bible The Inerrant Word Of God?

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by TheDivinePanacea, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Hello everyone this is my first Thread in this forum, as I am not sure if any threads like my topic already existed I would implore the community to be kind to the newbie :)

    Living in the new generation, the youth in my city seem to be experiencing a spiritual drought and as a result there are many who are unsure about their faith. I find myself trying to put myself in their shoes and thinking that if I am someone who was unsure of my beliefs how then can I be sure that whatever the Bible says is true?

    I would like to ask for everyone's input on this subject, also imagine that I was an unbeliever and you wanted to prove, and show the Bible's inerrancy, credibility and it's divinely breathed words to me.
     
  2. There are several views on this subject.
    The Roman Catholic view is that the Bible is inerrant as far as salvation is concerned, but not inerrant as far as history or science is concerned. The point being that the Bible is about salvation, and is not a manual or technical treatise.
    The Evangelical view is that the Bible is completely inerrant in every way. It has no flaw or contradiction of any kind.
    Other views tend to be variants of the above two.

    From my perspective - it does not matter.
    The fact is that those people who follow the God of the Bible and practice the principles found in the Bible become
    changed people. They are more and better than they were before, and that is what matters.

    Reading the Bible does not make saints, having a relationship with the Living God makes one a saint.
     
  3. I appreciate your reply :D
    True, the fact that the Bible changes people to be righteous is a testament to the power of God.
    Hm, I have friends however who do not easily adhere to answers like this since they say that it is possible to live a "good" life without the Bible, all that indicates is a difference in perspective However, the truth does not care about perspective!
    because it is a firm foundation that withstands all scrutiny.
    I suppose my desire is to present and know the word of God in such a way that it is perfect, the words of God given to man.
    For it is written in 2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."
    Do you also feel the desire to show the word of God this way?
     
  4. Interesting name, the divine cure or is it the other definition? Give them what they want to hear and it will be ok?
     
  5. One of my favorite quotes in the bible is John 1 . That is the quote which allowed me to find faith after being agnostic most of my life. If you want to convince people of the truth in the Bible, you might tell them about this. In John 1, most people probably interpret "the word" as referring to the Bible. I, however, see something a little deeper. I think this quote refers to the creation of the universe "in the beginning...". "The Word", I believe to be symbolic for sound, or frequency. If you go on youtube and search the term "cymatics" you will see some interesting videos. Cymatics is the study of the relationship between frequency (vibration) and form or structure. All matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration, and it is the rate of vibration (frequency) that leads to the specific shape that matter takes. Everything is the result of these vibrations. As the frequency increases, the shapes matter takes become more complex.

    The point I am trying to make here is that according to science, the universe began as a singularity. Then somehow the singularity exploded in the "Big Bang". I don't think the Bible contradicts this, I just think peoples interpretations might be a tad too literal. As I said before, I believe "The word" refers to sound, or frequency. It says "and the word was God". I think this is a reference to how God is in everything, and how everything is the result of frequency. I think it is saying that God is a singularity of infinite frequency, and that singularity gave rise to this particular universe and probably a multitude of other universes. I know this is probably not a popular interpretation, but for anyone who is science minded they might find it interesting.
     
  6. Actually, Jesusis4, I think God created the universe, or multiverse, if you will. He created "science" and is therefore the ultimate "scientist". He knows all the back doors and loopholes, but He uses them carefully, as He does not like to go against the laws of "nature" He created. God is a being of Light - as we are His children - we are also beings of Light. I love exploring science and it is only recently that "science" has begun to "see". They discovered the Higgs-Bosun, after all. :cool:
     
  7. Right, I agree with you. I wasn't trying to say he didn't create it, just that "the word" is a metaphor for sound or frequency. At least I like to think of it that way. I think God is in everything, and everything is in God.
     
  8. Sorry, I wasn't trying to accuse otherwise. Both Light and sound are frequencies, transmitting on waves. And you are right, I think we agree. I don't think "science" disproves God - I think "science" has a long way to go yet. It would help if academics didn't wallow in their own pride. Have you read Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything? It is quite enjoyable.
     
  9. I criticize a logic that the biblical literature has to be inerrant for it to be meaningful. My faith is in the living God who has unfolded Himself in Nature and His Son who became incarnate as the perfect notion of humanness. My faith does not require an answer book. Personally, I consider the worship of the biblical literature to be idolatrous. The biblical literature is the Word of God because it is the Word of the Church. It is the story of the community of faith. It is inspired, but the biblical authors are not reduced to mere pens in the hand of God. The biblical literature tells the story of a traumatic encounter of humankind and God. Do not mistake my words for disrespect. I kiss my RSV:CE and Liturgy of the Hours every time I am done praying/reading from them. I merely believe that biblical inerrancy is a foolish path that leads to a host of errors and acts as a childish defense mechanism from the uncontrollable contingency of the World.
     

  10. I find I am 6 of 1 and a half dozen of another about your post. I agree that biblical literature is a "guide". The Bible-or canon- may be "inerrant" but the interpetations are most assuredly not. I think that when you come to God, He has already "proven" the truth to the person. It is a personal proof, unique to the individual, for his/her understanding. As we continue to grow, we rise to the level we can understand.
     
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  11. PS: John Ryan - what the heck is that avatar you are using?

    PPS: Panacea- same thing - is that a white dragon?
     
  12. It is a picture from a photo shoot playing with (mocking) the idea of plastic surgery. The set is called Slave to the Needle. The model is wearing an anesthetic mask and sharp catheters attached to the tube.
     
  13. #13 Silk, Jan 16, 2014
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    Many levels of "huh?" ...OK - teasing a bit and I agree with the sentiment that we should not bow to vanity and society's purview but why are you using it?
     
  14. Uhhh.... I like art and photography?
     
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  16. Oh! Your reference to John 1:1 really helped me out, I was also amazed how I didn't get to think about this passage earlier Thanks for reminding me :) However, I believe what the Bible is portraying here is a "personification" of Jesus if you read a little further the passage also includes this "He was in the beginning with God" therefore the Word must be referring to Jesus Himself.
    The Greek word used in the original manuscript for Word was "logos" which in Greek means expression of a thought.
    Jesus is the All in All, so I agree too about your statement about singularity but for me it is for the incomparable Christ, He is the expression of God to man communicating to us about Him through Jesus, in another way to put it... God's Divine expression.
    Colossians 1:15-17 = "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities - all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together."

    It's nice how you mention science I too am fascinated by it :D but well... the Bible never truly states the explicit process in which God created the universe, He may have used the Big Bang or He may also have utilized "cymatics" I guess these are mysteries we can't completely be sure of yet while here on earth.
     
  17. I was not offended in the least. Trust me, it takes a great deal of effort to insult me.
     
  18. I'm glad people replied to my thread :D
    Panacea = A solution or remedy for all difficulties or diseases.
    I suppose I had this name because to me Jesus is the way to the truth and life, the answer to man's questions, the remedy for souls.
    Answering the question - Jesus is like a bitter and a repulsive remedy that is the only cure for unbelievers, but if you prescribe another remedy that's just the way they like it, that would be a different cure, a cure inefficient and cure incapable to heal.
    Presenting Jesus as He is, and presenting Him the way He wants us I believe is central to evangelism to others.
     
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  19. Haha it's my own preference... Ever since I was a kid I have always liked Dragons
     
  20. Hello Ryan, I understand what you are trying to say, as a Christian yourself I can see that you are firmly faithful to the scriptures and that your faith is strong.
    The Bible is one of the pillars of our faith, because basically faith comes by hearing right?
    Well in the opposite side of our perspective, It's hard for someone who is unbelieving like an atheist or those who claim to be agnostics to uh.. understand our faith, so as a result they stick to science since they see that empirical results are more believable compared to our faith which is a firm belief and trust without 100% hard, scientist approved evidence.
    The Bible is a book given to us by God for us to know Him, so I definitely agree with you about putting Bible worship outside the window!
    Hm, but I'm hoping that someone out there could answer my question if ever He/She holds some insight about Bible Credibility and it's Divinely breathed words.

    Oh and I am ever grateful for everyone's replies (y) Peace
     

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