Help Anyone?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Cosmicwaffle, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. I believe in Jesus, but I think I might to hell. If so many people end up there, what's stopping me? I ask God to reveal his ways, but I just get confused. If there is free will, how could a sinful man (me) ever be saved if he does not have the strength or faith to change his will hardened by years of wickedness? If there is not free will, why do people go to hell?

    Is God in control? Is it up to me to Love/seek/obey God? Or is God's Love enough?

    To be honest, I hate having control/responsibility. I wish God would just save me and love me.
  2. Also why can't everyone be saved in the end? Isn't anything possible with God?

    Or does free will ruin it? If it does, then why would God want us to suffer?

    These are not assertions, but questions.

    I know, faith, faith, faith.

    Listen, I have faith that if I believe in Jesus I will be saved. I believe in him, so if I am not saved by asking if I am saved or not means believeing in him is not good enough.
  3. I'm sorry... I am just really sad. I hate this world and I wish I and everything was better.

    I Love God, but I can't show it. I want to be with him, but I feel I can't get there.

    Better put, I am just a very big fool. Which makes me even more sad.

    I can't escape these feelings because they stem from unanswered questions. I can't have faith in something that is false, so I need the truth!
  4. You are saved because you believe. A lot of your questions can be answered by using google btw.
  5. I don't think you understand the sorrow I am going through
  6. I'm sorry that you are feeling that way. I was just trying to help you get the answers you're looking for.
  7. Hey Cosmic (waving) - I've already put you in my prayers. Has how you have been feeling been going on long? When did you accept Christ as your Savior (if I might ask)? Do you have any good christian friends? A pastor? A place you attend church? You have lots of people here who would like to help if you let them. Searching for truth is the absolute right direction. What version of the bible do you read? Are you reading it daily? It can be very calming. Prayers are too. As soon as you accepted Christ into your heart as your Lord and Savior, you were baptised with the Holy Spirit - ask the HS to help you read the Word and pray. PM me if I can help in any way.
    Blessings to you and yours.
  8. I've pondered on this one a lot to Cosmic. So here's what I can do for you. Only God knows who, if anyone, goes to hell. Its not our place to judge or speculate and I and many other Christians are incredibly uncomfortable with people who claim that any person is in hell or that a particular percentage is in hell.

    Because of this, I advise you to embrace that mystery for the time being.

    As to the concerns about your own life, there are a few things that you can do to help yourself. 1 it sounds like you may have an anxiety disorder. It is healthy to fear living immorally, but if that fear is consuming your life and there isn't a particular thing that is convicting you, chances are good your suffering from anxiety. 2 actively try to live a saintly life. Helping people, communing with other Christians, and attending church are all things that draw us closer to God and will help you if you feel far away. 3 remember that we all fall short of the standard expected of us. So just approach God with a humble heart and He will forgive you for your mistakes.
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  9. What you are doing here is good. It is inline with 1 Cor 11:31 and 2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?

    How do you know you are saved? I believe the acid test for Christianity is truly believing Jesus is Lord 1 Cor 12:3. Not ''I believe in Jesus''. Believing Jesus is Lord must be on par with our faith in unseen gravity.

    If you have that, well then it is just a case of following Phil 2:12.
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  10. #10 KingJ, Aug 14, 2014
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    We are an ant. We cannot grasp how God's brain works. We need to look at the evidence and conclude. NOT assume! Most assume there is no free will when all the evidence points to it. God of the universe died for ants. Would you do that for your pet ant? (if you had).

    If God can limit His omnipotence on the cross, He can limit His omniscience to preserve our free will. God does what pleases Him. God is good. God gives us free will because being good pleases Him. Creating a baby in the mothers womb for hell is evil. God is not evil.

    It is actually quite funny how so many think free will is God limiting His power when in fact, believing God '''can't'' give us free will, is :giggle:.

    But lets not argue on free will. Like I said, just look at where the evidence points!

    If we take 1 Tim 2:4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth and Psalm 100:5 For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations. We can safely conclude:

    If there is NO free will, then universalism must be true. If there is free will, then He will continue to show mercy to those that hate Him for all eternity. Hell is an eternal home. A place God has committed to tolerating in His universe for all eternity.
  11. #11 KingJ, Aug 14, 2014
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    1. Absolutely!

    We have NOTHING to do with salvation. But we have everything to do with bending the knee to receive the free gift.

    Always remember Abraham's bosom!!!!!!! Abraham committed adultery. He was a sinner. He had sin. But yet he was in his bosom / paradise with many other sinners. WHAT was the difference between them and those in Hades / other side of the divide? It was because those in paradise had a heart after God's, desired to repent of sin. Psalm 51:17!!!

    Repenting of sin has been the gospel to us from day 1. The ONLY difference in the gospel we preach today is that we add the good news. Good news = cross.

    2. God's love cannot save us from hell if we choose to hate Him. It is because He loves us that he respects our free will decision to hate Him. We must choose to love God. What is loving God? It is obeying His commandments. But how is obeying His commandments loving Him when so many are loving one another?? '''do not steal'', ''do not murder'' etc. It is because God HATES the sin of stealing, adultery etc etc. Anticipation of our sin made God sweat blood before the cross. If we love God, we will hate sin Rom 12:9. Hating sin = get saved / repent sincerely and always be quick to repent.
  12. #12 KingJ, Aug 14, 2014
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    Every sinner suffers / is in torment. There is not a single sinner today that has inner peace. Eternal torment is what scripture states. Not ''eternal stretching arms apart''. Can you find a single scripture where God tortured His enemy?

    If you or I want to help those who are going to suffer for eternity.....when NEITHER you or I will die for our'' pet ants''....heck we DON'T even care if they lose an arm or leg!!!! or if we step on HOW MUCH more will God desire / want to help them?

    Many assume terrible things about hell. I am not saying they are wrong. But it insinuates many times that God is evil and hates those who hate Him. That is as far from the truth as we can be!!! God tells us to love our enemies. We suddenly assume He won't? :rolleyes:....
  13. Well I suppose there is no hope for me because I've always thought God was in control of my life. I've become a man of habit and laziness, so how will I ever have a will strong enough to do everything Jesus commanded when I just want everything given to me?

    I thought salvation was a gift but the more I sin the more I think it isn't.

    The idea of free will scares me because I will never be as Good as Jesus or God. And I can't make myself try to be righteous because then I end up being prideful of myself.

  14. Ok let me put it this way, we are in the drivers seat not God. God is next to us in the passenger seat holding the navigation and saying "Im here with you the entire way." Allow God to be the navigator for your life. But remember we have other routes we can take that God is saying no to. Up to us to decide. God doesnt have us on a string
  15. That upsets me! I don't want to be driving! Who in their right mind and knowledge of God would?

    I'd rather go "Here God, you drive."

    Because I'm a bad driver, and I don't want to crash the car!
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  16. when reading Psalms, there are few chapter that I notice a pattern....

    At the first part: it tries to describe some kind of suffering, a longing….for salvation....

    and on the latter part, an affirmation of faith, such as this one...

    Psalm 13 King James Version (KJV)
    13 How long wilt thou forget me, O Lord? for ever? how long wilt thou hide thy face from me?
    2 How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my heart daily? how long shall mine enemy be exalted over me?
    3 Consider and hear me, O Lord my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;
    4 Lest mine enemy say, I have prevailed against him; and those that trouble me rejoice when I am moved.
    5 But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.
    6 I will sing unto the Lord, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.
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  17. Aw waffles, ^~^ you take me back abt 2-3 yrs ago...when I was newly saved I would worry about that too but as time went on annd as I ( attended church,read,did his will~ need to get back in to thst) I became sure of my salvation.

    Shoot, my cousin was so unsure he kept getting baptized for a while...but now He's sure and He hears him Crystal clear )

    CW.... salvation is something that can't be lost unless you put it down yourself....
    Just think,

    Mother teres, best missionary to date...doubt God's existence bc she didn't hear much from him as well as heaven's existence. ...
    But what she continued to do despite her doubts showed what she truly believed.
    Also, in her book, there was a point where she fell sick and left her body,met God and He said ..not yet....and sent her back to continue her wotk.....

    So, don't worry..i mean if peter denied him to his face,which he could see, 3 times and still forgave..... you should know God is merciful. ..
    And can tell him how you feel since he knows what you're going through..

    Shoot, thomas the disciple; didn't believe till he put a hand in his side...

    But what helps me is by looking at nature and people,the complexity of life and just knowing precise perfection couldn't have been caused by...a..what? Explosion?

    So just take it easy and continue to read and pray.
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  18. I have spiritual depression, and the devil keeps making me want to believe I should just kill myself and accept that I am going to hell.
  19. If you and Jesus were in the army and you saw someone about to shoot Him, would you jump in front of Him?

    My wife and I can fight all year. I can feel unloved all year. But I just need to look at her finger to know I have her heart.

    Judge yourself better! Look deeper! We all go through dry patches.
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  20. Satan is a liar - the Father of Lies. When you accepted Christ into your heart as your Lord and Savior, He forgave your sin - past, present, and future. As you grow in your faith, you will repent your sin and find you are less and less tempted. Resist evil because it separates you from God. Hold onto Christ's love, He's coming soon.

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