he is still going i hope the following reads right i don't think my last thread read right, i am trying it as i best i can don't rember everything. ok, i think i am starting realise that i can't do much about the thing between my best mate who has broken it off with his girlfriend. http://www.christianforumsite.com/showthread.php?t=9217 The new News is.. My best mate says he is not ready for a relationship - but says he is waiting and waiting for his ex to grow. However he is still there with the car and licence he says it is beneficial so they if for example they go to work and they have different hrs., one has a in one place, and the other across town so they can get themselves home or if one is working to take the kids somewhere- yes this is beneficial but not essential - he says he is waiting for this he is waiting for her to grow - this has been going on for 2 years now He says what he is doing is tough love last time i herd but a couple of weeks ago he said he wasn't waiting, what the heck is going on? should he be helping her grow and helping her with her problems?- if they were going out that is, what is next? also the other day he the girl said to me that she asked him what will happen when i get a car and licence? he did not have an answer i know of couples who only have one car, and one's wife who doesn't have a licence -they manage ok also the other day he the girl said to me that she asked him what will happen when i get a car and licence? he did not have an answer they went Christmas shopping with eachother day and had lunch in the mall's food court, i don't know if that is wrong, what classifies as a date? The Girl has been in a few bad (not abusive) relationships in the past i don't want her in another one is this still placing conditions on her? she says that he loves him, does he love her back? he says he does - but she maybe he is saying he loves her as a sister in Christ. but no more, she may be miss reading this- i don't know some sayed that this is control from previous threads, what is control? should a car and licence really matter?