Greetings In The Name Of Jesus Christ

Discussion in 'New Members Welcome' started by TalkJesus, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. Greetings, brothers & sisters!!!

    Here's hoping the Lord shall lead me into loving Him by feeding His sheep.

    Check everything shared by anyone including me with the Lord Jesus Christ as He is your Good Shepherd.

    Here's hoping that God is peradventuring in these latter days when faith is hard to find & His disciples are few.

    I do declare how much I need Him as my Good Shepherd in being my Friend in having made me and keeping me as His friend by continuing in His words in laying aside every weight & sin by faith in the Son of God & His help.

    May we continue to grow in the knowledge of Him so that our love may abound more & more as we run that race by looking to the author & finisher of our faith as we bear His reproach in the world by His grace & by His help.
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  2. Howdy!

    It's a good thing the Father is the One drawing us unto the Son by revealing His Son to us. John 6:44 & Matthew 11:25-27

    Sure glad that Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners of whom I am chief.:) Romans 5:8 & 1 Timothy 1:15

    Now my evil deeds have been and still are kept being reproved from me as I rest in Him that I am saved by grace. John 3:18-21 & Hebrews 4:1-3,9-11 as I look to Him in running that race for me: Hebrews 12:1-2 & Philippians 1:6,9-11 & Jude 1:24-25
  3. Hello from down under.. :)

    Glad to have you aboard CFS

  4. Thanks for the welcome, Jake.:)
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  5. Welcome :)
    Make yourself at home brother!!
  6. Thanks, brother.

    A note on your saying in your profile

    I hope you know we are filled when we had first come to & believed in Jesus Christ which is why believers shall hunger & thirst no more to be filled.

    John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

    Being filled is the testimony that we have been saved by Jesus Christ the Saviour.

    Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

    We are complete in Christ Jesus so that we need not seek a continual filling of the Spirit for we are filled as promised so we can rest in Jesus Christ when we had first come to Him.

    Colossians 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

    FYI brother Jake.
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  7. About the difficulty of faith. For me faith is easy, but for some it's very difficult. For example, Thomas Merton.

    I read his autobiography, The Seven Storey Mountain, which is about his long road to faith.

    In one example from the book, he was in France where he lived for a while with a French family. He could not understand (although I think he felt) their faith. They didn't argue with him. They just threw up their hands and said, "Impossible."

    It sounds so much more final is French.
  8. I believe Jesus shows the difficulty when it comes to the religious people as the idea of acknowledging that none of their works is good enough to get them into Heaven but simply trusting that Jesus can by His righteousness alone is something they mayhap refuse to accept because of pride in all they had done in showing their sincerity towards God. And like it or not, religion has crept into christianity that trusting Jesus as their Saviour that they are saved and trusting Him as their Good Shepherd to help them follow Him by faith is not enough for them. Resting in His sicnerity is not enough as wayward believers feel they must show their sincerity in the sight of God & men by their works in how they are getting into Heaven.

    Which is why children can so easily enter for all they can do is trust the Lord at His Word.

    Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

    Mark 10:13 And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them. 14 But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. 15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

    Hebrews 4:1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world....9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

    1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
  9. Well, over a decade or so, Merton had a series of cowabunga, holy moly Red Rider moments in which he felt like he had been struck by lightning. If I remember right, one of them was an OMG, I must believe moment. I should see if I can find it.
  10. Thanks for the welcome.

    Your signature reference in the NIV does seem to be off a bit. The KJV has this in this way.

    Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth: 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth: 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; KJV

    I see this as a testimony of the Lord Jesus Christ; therefore the "I was given birth" in the NIV is not meaning the same thing as "I was brought forth" in the KJV.

    This testimony cited that before anything was created, the Son of God was there as One existing with the Father as One brought up with Him. After God created everything by the Son, the Son was by the Father in the operations of this life.

    John 1:18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

    John 6:46Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

    Therefore "I was given birth" in the NIV is not the truth because it implies that the Son was created before creation came instead of the truth in the KJV that the Son was brought forth for God to create everything by the Son.

    John 1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men....

    If you ever have a hard time convincing others of the deity of Christ, it might be best to stick with the KJV. It is still on God to cause the increase, but changes in His words like that in Proverbs 8:24-30 is enough to sow doubts in His words so as to give heed to gnosticism which denies the deity of Christ.

    Acts 11:26 testify to the TR as the source origin of Antioch as being one to rely on whereas all other documents originating from Alexandria are circumspect because poetic licensing and gnosticism was known to exist in that area. Jesus did prophesy in John 14:23 & confirmed it by what the Father said in John 14:24 that there will be need for discernment as to what Bible is keeping His words from those that are not. Even the words of His disciples will be persecuted in like fashion : John 15:20

    Believers should be wary of new Bible versions as this hype to get an easier to read Bible than the KJV is getting old. Why has the NIV not been the settlement of having an easier to read Bible? And yet mankind still keeps on going; wherein one has to wonder if money is the motivation and not actually translating the meaning of His words for us to understand. When the copyright insist on a number of changed words and phrases in order to have that copyright, so is the temptation to chnage the message and the testimony regarding the Son in His words.

    Psalm 119:157 Many are my persecutors and mine enemies; yet do I not decline from thy testimonies. 58 I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    Believers need to rely on the Good Shepherd in understanding His words in the KJV and not on mankind to make an easier to read Bible.

    Just sharing edification as He can only give you the discernment in the event you are having trouble convincing those that deny the deity of Christ by the NIV. There are enough changes in it is why they doubt the references you do point out His deity in.

    Again, thanks for the welcome.
  11. Unless you are saying King James was a deity, I believe you might do well to research who King James was. And realize that he edited the Bible according to his sovereign will, political leanings, and insanity.


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  12. ^ Thank you. ^
  13. #15 TalkJesus, Jul 27, 2014
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    As much as there have been accusations made about King James, he did not edited the Bible to his sovereign will. There are charges that the RCC had changed the scripture as well, but scripture still reproves their works in catholicism. So let us reason together with His help.

    One such charge was that King James was gay, but the scripture remain unchanged as homosexuality is still an abomination to the Lord.

    It was the Puritans that had pushed for a new bible because of the errant marginal notes in the Geneva Bible that goes against the written scripture in the Geneva Bible like saying that Jesus was Micheal the archangel when Hebrews 1 st chapter reproves such notion and that marginal notes encourages rebellion to those in authority when Romans 13 th chapter reproves such notion too.

    King James was resistant at first to have it done, but God's hand made him come around.

    God had used another person like that in history that did not know Him, but testify to the power of God in how He is God over every one that lives like Cyrus in accomplishing His will for the people.

    Isaiah 45:1Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: 3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. 4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

    When I read the King James Bible, I know I am reading His words as kept by those that loved Him & His words;

    But if you prefer to believe that Jesus Christ was created before creation came about as your NIV testify of in Proverbs 8:24-30, then I can understand why you would believe such false charges against the KJV so quickly, otherwise, if you did not believe that Jesus was not given birth before the creation of the world, then I fail to see why you are not alarmed by what the NIV is clearly saying in supporting such false teachings that deny the deity of Christ.

    Still, it is on God to cause the increase in letting you see the truth in His words from that which is not in keeping with His words regarding the testimony of the Son.
  14. Well, I found the passage that I mentioned, but it is not how I remembered it. It is about the nature of God. The sort of thing that ties Atheists in knots.

    The example I mentioned, the one in which Mertion lived with the French family, must be as good as an example as any. The family members believed. They didn't need arguments or logic. They simply believed, and I think that their faith made a big impression on Merton.

    After all his searching it came down to "he had to believe," which I think is what you said.
  15. Not quite what I had meant, because most religious people are not able to surrender from their religious works because of their pride in all that they have done. Their identity is wrapped up in their religious zeal that the idea of surrendering & ceasing to do them for obtaining salvation is "mind-boggling" to them so in spite of the vanity and the lack of assurances from which they had to believe, many don't come to that form of repentance by believing in Him in order to be saved.

    Believers that get hoodwinked into working for their salvation are still saved whethor they realize it or not because of His promise for believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and that God raised Him from the dead, but they are labouring in unbelief, and thus building on that foundation of works that deny Him as having saved them as well as able to be their Good Shepherd in helping them to live as His from which it was written that the just shall live by faith in the Son of God & all His promises to us.

    But even if a hoodwinked saved believer are labouring in unbelief in doing works to help obtain their salvation, they can go before that throne of grace and ask for wisdom & discernment in knowing the truth that the works of catholicism are not necessary for salvation because Jesus really is the Saviour after all for simply believing in Him & as a result, they are saved.

    That is why Jesus Christ "IS' the Good News for man: not a "possible" Good News, but "IS" and why we can testify of Jesus as our Saviour because we are saved. He is able to keep on forgiving "saved" believers without the Mass. 1 John 1:9
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  16. My old church taught works-salvation. How much we did was their measure of what kind of believer we were, and we were blessed by them accordingly. We got ourselves "saved," and kept ourselves "saved." What a shock it was, then, when I moved to my present place of worship! I was no longer a soloist, teacher, artist, actor, etc., etc., etc. I was a quiet member of the congregation like everyone else. In time, I found my quiet place, giving back, and learned to love that. I was no longer, uh, special. I no longer earned my way. It was a good lesson.
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  17. Jesus had to set me free from keeping my commitment to follow Him in resting in Him that He will help me to follow Him: His commitment to me as I am trusting Him as my Good Shepherd. Some have made that commitment to follow Jesus to gain the assurance of salvation which is the same as labouring in unbelief when they are saved.

    1 Corinthians 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

    Good works has its place, but not for obtaining our salvation as Paul reminded Titus of that.

    Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

    Thank you for sharing. Truly by the grace of God we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and so by the grace of God we shall follow Him by faith in the Son of God & all His promises to us.
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