Gog, Magog and Biblical prophecy I was wondering if any who are passing by would help me understand all of this: Gog and Magog appear in the Book of Ezekiel 38 It says: 2. of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3. And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4. And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 5. Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: 6. Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: [and] many people with thee. 7. Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. 8. After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. 9. Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. 10. Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: 11. And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, Ok, Let's just take this much so far. So far we see the lands of Gog and Magog with control over the armies of other nations. Magog doesn't seem to be a very popular land with God. First question I have. Is Persia, Ethiopia and Libya suppose to be against Magog? Or are they brought forth with the land of Magog? The name Gomer appears in verse 6 and is a referrence to the Cimmerians who are from modern day Azerbaijan/Russia. It appears that Gomer is part of the armies of Magog. Also among the armies of Magog is Tubal. Tubal refers to decendants of the Iberians which settled modern day Georgia. Next we see the nation of Meshech, which refers to the people of southern Russia (just north of Georgia). Finally the nation of Togarmah is mentioned which refers to the people who inhabited the area of modern day Armenia. I should mention that Tubal, Meshech, Gomer and Magog are names of sons of Japheth and Togarmah is a grandson of Japheth (Gomer's son) as listed in Genesis (chapter 10). It seems to me that the nations of Persia, Phut (nation of Phut who was a son of Ham son of Noah and represents Lybia or Somalia) and the Kush (Egypt and the Sudan, Kush is also a son of Ham son of Noah). Ham also had a son named Mizraim which also refers to the egyptian region and another some named Caanan which is the region that is modern day Israel. So, so far we have Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia and Russia who seem to be allied with Egypt, Somalia/Ethiopia, Sudan region and Lybia against the "and that is full of unwalled cities" (This term usually refers to the area of Iraq). ok so moving on: 12. To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land. 13. Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? ok so three new names are introduced as people who, in my guess, are preyed upon by the armies of Gog and Magog. We have Sheba (Yemen and parts of Ethiopia), Dedan (Of the Syrian area?) and Tarshish (the area of the city state of Tarsus in Turkey). Sheba and Dedan are both from Ham and Tarshish is a son of Jephath. Ok, moving on now that the new characters have been introduced: 14. Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know 15. And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: 16. And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. 17. Thus saith the Lord GOD; [Art] thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days [many] years that I would bring thee against them? Ok, so we have the armies coming against Israel now after fighting many other battles in other areas (Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Yemen ect. . .) And it seems that they are defeated by Israel. What catches my eye though is the term in verse 16 "latter days" So this entire event seems to be a prophecy of a future war. Am I following this correctly so far, or am I off base here? Anyway, the rest of this chapter just talks about the battles and how fierce it is. Chapter 39 talks about the striking down of this weakened army of Gog and Magog and has them being burried in the Valley of Hamon Gog for all to see. Ok, What makes me see this as a prophecy is the term in 38:16 and the fact that Gog and Magog are seen again in the Book of Revelations. Where Satan gathers them to make war against the Saints and seemingly Israel. Rev. 20; 7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea. 9. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. As far as I can tell, Gog appears to be the region of Scythia. What do you think of this passage? How do you view it? This chapter seems to imply to me that parts of current and former Russia will be used as an army for Satan against Israel and the Saints. Thank you in advance for any input.