I got this friend from work that is toward to Atheism. Couple weeks ago I gave him a book from Pastor Wurmbrand on this subject. Them, for the very first time he was not afraind to make his "strongest" argumet to me.....Based on a Old-Earth platform: Why did animals killed each other before the flood?(Based on science!) That made me re-visit my old notes for this argument....I found a old note sayind "Where does it say the God Created a perfect Universe to beging with!? Does not even the Anges have defects? Is not ONLY God perfect!?" .....lol....not very Orthodox,....using Scriputure, logic etc...can you refute this note in a logic and soundble maner?