Rosa, without really taking time to get to know me, you have made some accusations against me which I feel are unfounded. Firstly, might I draw your attention to Rom 14:4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. You seem to be of the understanding that all those affiliated with the church that is headed up by the Pope, (also known as the Bishop of Rome) are saved...is this a correct summation of your understanding? Another passage from the Scriptures that you might like to study is Mar 9:38 John said to him, "Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us." Mar 9:39 But Jesus said, "Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. So a precedent is set that not all who were in the direct company of the disciples with Jesus, (including Peter) were the only ones who were disciples. Yet..........Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' So, on the one hand, not all who belong to the group of which Peter was to emerge as a leader are exclusively the Lord's people, on the other hand not every one who names the name of the Lord will be saved. It is worth noting that when these unfortunates claim to have done works in the name of Jesus, He does not deny their claims, He just rejects them for other reasons. So now who are these people going to be? Were they Muslims? not likely because a Muslim would do whatever a Muslim does if anything, in the name of Mohammad or Allah. Were they Buddhists? No, they wouldn't invoke the name of Jesus either? Were they Atheists? Not likely, for they do not recognize Jesus as anybody other than just another man.. So who will they be? The distinction between Catholic and Roman Catholic is a well established one. You might find the article at http://trinityacc.org/about.html useful. Now am I really such a bad egg for having a 'wider than some' understanding? My distinction between Catholic and Roman Catholic is not denigrating Roman Catholics, it is believing Jesus' words and for that I will not apologize.