That goes without saying. I'd even go further in saying God name came before anything as He simply always just has been and never came into existence...though I know what you meant and I'm sure you'd agree with me, too. We're getting into semantics -- the point I was addressing was the Chritinized terms and traditions that had pagan origins. But just because it had pagan origins doesn't mean the practices when done in glory to God becomes paganism, provided He's the focus of worship. You are right in saying Christ wants nothing in our way of worshiping Him, whether that be saints, friends, our selves, and especially idols as that would go even further in rejecting Him altogether in a really bad way. No, the Catholic Church can't simply "make a saint" as only God can make saints. Though the Church, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, can proclaim what God has done with an individual. If the Church could just "make it so," then I suspect people like Mother Therese or Pope JP II would have been canonized as saints by now because of how much they are recognized in their service to God...but the process isn't just a matter at looking at their lives and saying "YEP--they were true Christians and did good!" If often requires a series of miracles linked with the individuals, and the miracles have to be evaluated extremely closely. This is why so many of the alleged "miracles" that have been brought out by the media haven't been confirmed. Some are still being reviewed after 30 or 40 years. If its unclear, then it often can't get confirmed as it would be a risk of undermining God's authority. Did you want to get back to the discussion of Father since that wasn't really cleared up yet, or would you prefer to let it rest?