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Did Jesus Died On Good Friday And Rose Early Sunday Morning?

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    It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God. This lesson will examine the history of Easter, and then investigate the Bible concerning the death and resurrection of Jesus.

    Easter Created By Man

    Before we get into the death and resurrection of Jesus we need to address history of Easter itself. We will also take a look at the symbols of Easter: rabbits and eggs. What does rabbits and eggs have to do with the birth of Jesus? Furthermore, when did rabbits start laying eggs? Additionally, we will look at the history of Easter sunrise service, lilies, candles, and hot crossed buns. If you research Easter in most encyclopedias, you will see that Easter has many customs and legends that are pagan in origin and have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.

    Easter was named after Eostre (sometimes spelled Eastre), the great Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, fertility, and new life. Similar Teutonic dawn goddesses of fertility were known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos. Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Thus it is easy to see how "Eastre time" became "Easter time".

    Easter Sunday falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after March 20th, the nominal date of the Vernal (sometimes referred to as spring) Equinox. This is the day (or period of days) in spring when the days and nights are of approximately equal length. This is a time of celebrating new life, the resurrection of nature from the dead, and it has typically featured fertility rites, merrymaking, and usually centers on orgiastic sexual activities. In ancient times there were the sacrificing of virgins, the worship of fertility gods and goddesses.

    The Mystery Of The Egg Laying Easter Rabbit

    Since ancient times, pagans have worshipped rabbits as sex and fertility gods, and have looked upon them as symbols of lust, sexual vigor and reproduction. Let's take a look at some examples.
    In the traditions of Egypt and Persia there are such rabbit gods and they were particularly honored during spring. The symbols of the Norse Goddess Ostara were the hare and the egg. Both represented fertility. Dyed eggs also formed part of the rituals of the Babylonian mystery religions. Eggs were sacred to many ancient civilizations and formed an integral part of religious ceremonies in Egypt and the Orient.

    Dyed eggs were hung in Egyptian temples, and the egg was regarded as the emblem of regenerative life proceeding from the mouth of the great Egyptian god. The Orphic legend of the origin of the Universe has the Earth being hatched out of an enormous egg. In a broad range of pagan societies, from Egypt and Mesopotamia to the British Isles, brightly-decorated eggs were (and still are) presented as gifts and charms to bring (supernaturally) fertility and sexual success each spring.
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    Easter Sunrise Service

    The Easter sunrise service, that is practiced in many Christian churches, can be traced back to the ancient pagan custom of welcoming the sun god at the vernal equinox - when daytime is about to exceed the length of the nighttime. It was a time to celebrate the return of life and reproduction to animal and plant life as well. Worship of the sun god at sunrise is the religious ritual condemned by the Lord as recorded in Ezekiel 8:15-18.

    Ezekiel 8:15-18 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

    Other Easter Symbols

    The Easter lily has long been revered by pagans of various lands as a holy symbol associated with the reproductive organs. It was considered a phallic symbol. Easter candles are sometimes lit in churches on the eve of Easter Sunday. However, this practice can be directly linked to the pagan customs of lighting bonfires at this time of year to welcome the rebirth/resurrection of the sun god. During Easter, some eat hot crossed buns during meals. At the feast of Eostre, the Anglo-Saxon fertility goddess, an ox was sacrificed. The ox's horns became a symbol for the feast. They were carved into the ritual bread. Thus originated hot cross buns. The word "buns" is derived from the Saxon word "boun" which means "sacred ox." Later, the symbol of a symmetrical cross was used to decorate the buns; the cross represented the moon, the heavenly body associated with the goddess, and its four quarters.

    Is The Word Easter In The Bible?

    Now that we have firmly established the pagan history of Easter, we will look at it from the perspective of the bible. The scriptures will show that Easter is a tradition implemented by man. The word Easter appears in the bible one time and one time only. The following verse is the one that makes reference to Easter.

    Acts (12:4) And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

    Now an individual may see this, as the legitimizing of the holiday Easter. After all one sees it being referred to in the bible. However, if we look at the verse directly above this one, it points to the fact, that the period being referred to is actually the Passover.
    Acts (12:3)
    And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.) Verse (3) states that when Peter was taken it was the days of unleavened bread. One can determine that the time they were going to bring forth Peter was the Passover, by looking at the following verses. In them one will see that the Passover is the day preceding the Feast of Unleavened Bread not Easter. In addition the verse in John, states that it was a Jewish custom that the Romans would deliver unto them one at the time of the Passover. Leviticus (23:5) In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover. (23:6) And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. John (18:39) But you have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews?

    One will not find that its observance is supported by the bible. And that is because, Easter itself is supposed to be a commemoration of the resurrection of Jesus. And Jesus told us to commemorate His death, not His resurrection. Luke (22:19) And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. In reading chapter 22 of the Gospel of Luke one will find that Jesus asked this of His disciples during the Passover meal. The Passover is what Jesus asked us to observe to remind ourselves that He died for us not Easter. Jesus asked us to commemorate the Passover. He was not only to die on the Passover, He became our Passover.
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    In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself.

    For us this may be called Friday (the 6th day of the week) but remember the calendar...His crucifixion was in the daytime and in their thinking this as the daylight portion (the close) of the 6th day (Thursday evening to Friday sundown)...He was taken down and buried before sundown (on the sixth day) and entombed before the 7th day Sabbath (which just happened to be the 1st official day of the feast of Unleavened Bread)...He laid in the tomb all of this 7th day (dead day 2) and remained there past sundown (day 3) until early in the morning on the 1st day (the concept of a Sunday was not in their frame of reference)...

    The early church (as instructed by the Apostles and those they personally discipled) definitely kept the Pascha (from Pesach or Passover) remembering His death till He come...though they ended their feast on the following 1st day in honor of His rising (some say after and all night vigil)...

    It is an interesting study...see Polycarp (student of John) and Anicetus of Rome...Victor vs. Polycrates...comments and reactions....up to Melito of Sardis most of the East still observed the Pascha on the 14th of Nisan...
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    You know? Satanists and Pagans don't celebrate Christ's birth or resurrection either. The world of Christians have united for centuries on the days to celebrate these amazingly significant things. Personally, I think these days should be celebrated in our hearts every day. Most Christians will agree that we don't know when exactly, Christ was born and Easter represents the days of Christ's passion. The rest of your post is immaterial because people have always tended to celebrate/remember things important and if old ways of celebrations was picked up along the way? Who cares as long as everyone knows what they are remembering.
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    Yes it certainly does not matter if we select random days to celebrate such things. We are free to choose any days we wish (we are not under the Law) and any day we have chosen to celebrate and remember Christ is wonderful (so long as it is Christ we are celebrating)....however the history remains...the only feast we are told to "keep until He comes" is the Pascha...
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    If you care to take the time.........you can find Eggs, and rabbits all the way back to Genesis 10 with Nimrod and his wife/mother Semeramis. She was the 1st self proclaimed "Mother Earth" and rabbits and chickens were symbols of sexual activity and procreation/lust and sex.

    Google her name and you will be amazed at what was going on then and what has been adopted into everyday life as we know it today.

    Nimrod and Semeramis had one son named Tamuz who is found in Ezekiel and Jermiah. She is referred to as the "Queen of Heaven" in the Scriptures.
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    Praise God for Easter!!! Big Chocolate rabbits with big chocolate ears. Just saying.
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    Jesus Gives A Sign

    Jesus was always being inquired of by the Jews for a sign. He gave them one in reference to His death and resurrection. He told them that just like Jonas, He would be in the earth 3 days and 3 nights. In the Gospel of John Jesus again gave the Jews a sign by telling them if this temple was destroyed He would raise it up in 3 days. Jesus was referring to His body.

    (Matthew 12:38) Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    (John 2:18) Then answered the Jews and said unto him, “What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?” (19) Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. (20) Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? (21) But he spake of the temple of his body.

    Jesus makes it clear the time between His death and resurrection would be 3 days and 3 nights.

    Cannot Get 3 Days And 3 Nights
    Now despite the fact that Jesus Himself said that He would be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights, man has come up with the tradition of Jesus dying on Good Friday and rising early Sunday morning. In following this tradition, not only does one not observe one of God's Holy Days, which is the Passover, they directly deny the words of Jesus. It was Jesus who gave the sign of being in the grave 3 days and 3 nights. The tradition of Good Friday and Easter clearly does not line up with scripture. Because following this tradition the maximum one has Jesus in the grave is 1 day and 2 nights.

    According to tradition, if Jesus had died on Friday, He would have been in the grave Friday night, Saturday day and Saturday night. One would not count Sunday because in John (20:1) it states that the 1st day of the week which is Sunday, Mary came to the grave site when it was still dark. In Luke (24:1-6) They find that the stone which was placed in front of the sepulcher had been removed and an angel tells them that Jesus had already risen.

    How They Say It Happened


    Tradition of Man - Good Friday & Easter SU M T W TH F S
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    (John 20:1) The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. (2) Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

    (Luke 24:1) Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. (2) And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. (3) And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. (4) And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
    (5) And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? 6) He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
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    You're right...serving others God's go back to Ham (first Babylonian), Gentiles adopt their paganism added a spin to. Its written in Jeremiah 13:10 This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall even be as this girdle, which is good for nothing. The Lord didn't like it then and he don't like it now. Lets go into Deuteronomy 7:4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. Jesus said in Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

    Pay attention to what being said here in Isaiah 34:1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it. 34:2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. The future of the Lord, people
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    When Did Jesus Die?

    The following verses will serve to show that Jesus died on the Passover. It states in Mark (15:42-45) that on the evening of the preparation day, which is the day before the Sabbath, Joseph a counseller asked for the body of Jesus. Once Pilate determined Jesus was dead, he gave him the body.

    Mark (15:42) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath, (43) Joseph of Aarimathaea, an honourable counseller, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

    The above scriptures are where the problem lied with the early church trying to interpret the events of the bible. One should take note, that what the majority of modern day Christians practice or follow come directly from the Roman Catholic Church. You had non spiritual people trying to decipher events that were spiritual. Since the scriptures stated, that the preparation day, was the day before the Sabbath, they automatically assumed this event took place on a Friday, because they knew the Lord's Sabbath was from Friday evening to Saturday evening. That is how they came up with the concept that Jesus died on Friday and He rose early Sunday morning. What they failed to take into account were the Lord's Holy Days or as they are also called High Sabbaths. There are seven yearly Sabbaths, and they, with the exception of Pentecost, can fall on any day of the week. At the beginning of this lesson, it was explained in Leviticus (23:4) that the Passover which is the 14th of the month, is the day before the feast of Unleavened Bread, which is a Holy Day or A High Sabbath. The Passover is sometimes referred as the preparation day because they used this day to prepare for the feast. The Feast of Unleavened Bread is the Sabbath which was being refereed to in Mark 15:42) when it was stated that Joseph craved the body of Jesus. Jesus had been crucified on the Passover and the next day was the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Jesus foretold when His death would occur.
    (Matthew 26:1) And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, (2) Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

    Now remember God's days start at evening and end the next evening. Keep that in mind as you view the next set of scriptures. Jesus had been betrayed by Judas the evening of the Passover. John 13 tells how Jesus and His disciples, that evening, were sharing the Passover meal. John (18:3) shows that same evening; Jesus was betrayed and taken away. It was still nighttime when they took Jesus, because the men that came and took and bound Him had lanterns and torches.

    Jesus was crucified the next day but it was still the Passover. Remember God's days run from sundown to sundown. Jesus had been taken into custody the night of the Passover and the next morning which is the day of the Passover, He was condemned and crucified.

    The following verses demonstrate how Pilate was willing to release Jesus the morning after he had been taken in to custody. It was still the Passover. We all know the Jews refused and Jesus was crucified.
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    Bro Tan. I wrote a huge study on the Chronology of Man According to Scriptures and you are correct, Jesus died on the 14 Nisan along with all the Passover lambs. The Jews, even in Jesus' day execute the Passover on the 15th instead of the 14th as God stated. This happened because the Rabbinical Jews (aka Pharisees) do not hold the word of God in absolute authority but hold tradition and teachings of man in higher regard. They'll tell you so too. This is why their tallits do not have a blue ribbon as prescribed in the Torah. Jesus died on Wednesday, just like the original Passover, and a couple of hours later it was Thursday. Israel departed Egypt on 15 Nisan exactly 430 years after God's prophecy to Abraham. Jesus rose from the dead sometime after sunset Saturday (i.e. the beginning of Sunday, the first day of the week.)
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    Yes! This next day tradition you speak of (having the Seder on the evening of the 15th as opposed to Torah instruction) was allegedly created to provide a Seder meal celebration for the wayfarer and the poorest of the poor...it could not be held on the 14th because the priests themselves had to hold their household Seder on that day. He was being slaughtered at the same time as the Temple lambs...and it just so happens that the 7th day Sabbath that year was also the same day as the first day of Unleavened Bread (which occurs about every 7 years or so). Firstfruits (the day He rose) is always the following 1st day (in this year it was the day after).

    In 2014 the Passover (14th of Nisan) falls on the Evening of our Monday (April 14th), Unleavened Bread begins of Tuesday (for 7 days ending the following Monday) and first fruits (on which we will celebrate Easter) occurs as natural on the next 1st day (or Saturday evening through Sunday and sunset)...the actual Pascha (or bread and wine Passover of the Church celebrating His death till He comes) should take place on Monday evening (you can do this in your homes if you wish) and then we would probably fast and pray all week (though we have no precedence spelled out that I am aware of), but the early writings indicate a vigil preceding the a celebration of the resurrection early in the morning at sunrise of the feast or firstfruits

    Just $.02

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    Abdicate,
    re: "Jesus died on Wednesday..."

    If by Wednesday you mean the 4th day of the week, how do you reconcile that with Luke 24:21?
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    It's all spelled out in my study: http://abdicate.net/book.aspx page 108 :)
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    Can't be, because then He would have risen on Saturday morning (Wed/Thur; Thru/Fir; Fri/Sat) and would have missed being the firstfruits and that would have the women coming to the tomb to anoint ON the 7th day Sabbath (a strict no no)...I think one of the problems is that you are assuming three complete 24 hour days...but even then if a 1st day of the week, early in the morning, resurrection would indicate a Thursday death not a Wednesday...
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    No, at sunset the date changes. He rose on the first day of the week, Sunday.
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    Everyone is quick to count 3 days and 3 nights as parts of days and night. No matter how you count it, you cannot get a 3 day count from sunset Friday to sunrise Sunday as 3 days and nights. Nisan 14 never falls on a Thursday. There's a complete chart in the study with it all spelled out. The problem is we're used to Roman thinking instead of Hebrew. At sunset is the end of the day and the beginning of the next, not midnight. Our 6pm Saturday "night" is Sunday morning. Their sabbath starts a sundown OUR Friday night, the beginning of their Saturday.

    Why is it people can so quickly add 3 "parts" of a day to make a Friday death with a Sunday resurrection BEFORE sunrise and not accept 2 extra hours on Wednesday and 3 full 24-hour days? It's a mystery to me.
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    Everyone is quick to count 3 days and 3 nights as parts of days and night. No matter how you count it, you cannot get a 3 day count from sunset Friday to sunrise Sunday as 3 days and nights.

    Yes you can if you understand the culture and that it was BEFORE sunset. He died around 3 pm on our Friday which was the end of day 6 for the Jews…not at sunset but long enough before it so that they could take Him down, wrap Him, and place Him in the Tomb and get home before Sabbath...

    Nisan 14 never falls on a Thursday. There's a complete chart in the study with it all spelled out.

    You are totally off here and so isn’t your chart. The 14th of Nisan (like any other day) can certainly fall on any day of the week (some years it falls on the 7th day Sabbath)

    The problem is we're used to Roman thinking instead of Hebrew. At sunset is the end of the day and the beginning of the next, not midnight. Our 6pm Saturday "night" is Sunday morning. Their sabbath starts a sundown OUR Friday night, the beginning of their Saturday.

    It is true…the Hebrews never even imagined sats and suns these ideas were not even in their frame of reference…yes what we call Sat at sundown is the ending of the 7th day Sabbath and after sundown is the evening (not morning) of the 1st day (I know you know the evening precedes the morning of the 1st day)

    Why is it people can so quickly add 3 "parts" of a day to make a Friday death with a Sunday resurrection BEFORE sunrise and not accept 2 extra hours on Wednesday and 3 full 24-hour days? It's a mystery to me.


    Because all of historical tradition from the earliest church says you are incorrect (centuries before a Catholic “good Friday” thingy)…there are many examples of the use of “inclusive Reckoning” wherewith any part of a day is as the whole day…I will give you a couple of quick examples but first…

    In the Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 4, page 475 we read…

    "A short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though, of the first day only a few minutes after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day."

    The Law says that a boy is to be circumcised on the eight day but even if he is born five minutes before sunset that counts as the entire first day….the Law also tells us to count 50 days to Shavuot (hence Pentecost) only the day the counting starts is in the daytime on first fruits (at the waving of the sheaves, in other words the second half) and yet counts as all of day 1...and Shavuot itself is celebrated ON the 50th day (counted as the day from the moment it begins)…so by your present logic, the Bible is either lying, or in error, or everyone somehow has it wrong (And everyone always had until just recently)…but none of these are true…the part of day one is day one and the very beginning (the 1st minute) of day 50 IS the 50th day…so do you see? This would equal 48 and a little more than 1/2 of a day not 50 but it doesn't it equals the 50 thats why we call it pentecost

    In our grammar it would be like if I said to you. “Do you remember the day we went to the ballgame?” But I really am only speaking of part of a day yet call it a whole day…
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    Oh..I know He did and have already stated that but He rose "early in the morning" which FOLLOWS the evening portion of the day (which began the evening preceding the morning which is one day even though it still had 11 or 12 hours left to it).
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    I look at it like this: Jesus said 3 days and 3 nights. If He had said just 3 days, we could assume parts of days, but He explicitly stated 3 days and 3 nights. You cannot get that amount of time from Friday 3pm to Sunday 4am. Believe me I've hashed all this out in the study.

    You need to study the Jewish calendar. Nisan 14 never falls on a Thursday. Never. When you do, you'll discover what "know not the day nor the hour" really means. Also, it's been my experience that in the scriptures when estimates are given, or generalizations, it is never exaggerated. It's a tough subject and why it took over 200 pages to explain. The scriptures say Noah had all three of his children at 500 years old, but other points of scripture show he didn't have Shem until he was 502 years old. Is that a contradiction? Not at all. Stephen does the same thing with the number of years of bondage and judges in Acts 7. Don't fall for tradition as the Jews do, believe the Scriptures. It's just like the nativity scene, the magi didn't come until Jesus was in a home and probably closer to 2 years old. It took me ten years to reconcile every verse into a timeline. But I agree to disagree. :)
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