devil and evil angels

Discussion in 'Bible Study' started by smellycat, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. devil and evil angels

    where are they?do they walk the earth?how do they influence us?are there high powered angels here on earth?
  2. My understanding is that the devil and his demons do walk to and fro on this earth, looking for souls to destroy, through temptation and sin~
  3. so they are spiritual?
  4. Hi Smellycat

    The Hebrew and Greek words for "angel" are used 500 times throughout the Bible. Thus, God clearly intended us to know about angels.

    Here is just a summary of what these verses tell us about angels.

    Angels are servants, to assist mankind come to salvation.
    Man will eventually become greater than angels.
    Angels have free will - and some went bad.
    We are not to worship either good or fallen angels.
    We are not even told most angels names.
    We are not to communicate with angels through mediums.
    Angels are not the spirits of dead humans. Angels are beings who were created by God/Christ.
    Angels have different powers and glories. The archangels or cherubim like Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel are among the highest ranked angels.
    Four other high-ranking angels or "beasts" ("Zoon" Gk) stand at the 4 corners of God's throne and have lion, ox, eagle and human faces - and 6 wings each.
    Demons are confined to earth. The more vicious ones are imprisoned in the abyss or bottomless pit - perhaps the center of the earth.
    Less dangerous ones roam the surface of the earth and may be contacted through shamans, fortune-tellers, mediums, witch-doctors etc. The Bible warns against contact with these spirits, and Christ was constantly casting them out of people. Some, Christ banished to the abyss because of their evil.
    Some demons are the "gods" who were behind the religion of the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Myans etc. All pagan religions are based upon demon-spirit worship.
    Because demons are not allowed to manifest themselves today (as a rule) they are forced to use idols as their physical representation for people to bow before.
    The wages of sin is death - for fallen angels too. Ezekiel 28 describes how Satan will be totally and utterly destroyed - burnt up in hell fire with the rest of the demons soon after the end of the Millennium.

    In the end-times, paranormal manifestations will abound - used by the False Prophet to convince people to follow the Beast. A religious system incorporating all aspects of pagan worship down through the ages will present itself as a miracle-working Christianity. The False prophet will use his demonic power to pretend to be the returned Christ. God is going to release even very wicked demons now locked up in the abyss to enhance the delusion of humanity. People will be forced to choose the true God, or false gods (demons) in the end-time. Expect "miracles"/paranormal events to abound, performed by
    demons through human agents, just before the end.

    Good angels travel between God's throne and earth helping Christians, or just generally doing God's will and being God's eyes and hands.

    This just scratches the surface of what could be said about angels.
  5. Somewhere within the design of the human being is a synapse or junction between the spiritual and the physical. This is a physical junction between our spirit and our central nervous system. Information is transferred back and forth probably by some sort of a coded electrical protocol. Some think that this synapse is located in the solar plexus because of the scripture, which says…

    John 7:37-39 (NASB)
    Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. [38] "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water.' " [39] But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

    Wherever it is located, it does exist; and it is the junction between the communication of the spirit of man and his physical mind - spirit to material. This synapse is like an open microphone dominated normally by the individual, but also open to other spirit voices as well. The voice of the enemy can speak into our "microphone" as well as the Holy Spirit. Tongues come through this junction also, but bypasses the analytical mind.

    James 4:7-8 (NASB)
    Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. [8] Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

    If we resist his intrusive words he will depart from us. If we entertain his words because of some lust or soulish weakness in our character - we will do what I call “Mind sharing.†That is - we open ourselves to allowing the enemy to share our minds. Most serial killers have a long history of mind sharing with an evil spirit. It often takes decades for the enemy to gain control of a certain portion of our minds by constantly feeding into us his doctrines and he actually replicates a part of himself within that person.

    This is why people who are demonized almost always state that they hear "voices" and these voices tell them to do evil things. Remember that the maniac of Gadara had a legion of spirits - about 6,000. This also explains why these people can be momentarily taken over by spirits for periods of time to commit some horrible evil act and then they withdraw and the person seems to be perfectly normal. It also explains why serial criminals are unable to stop but are driven and can't get away from their posession, but rather continue on with their evil practices. Some become so demonized by their fellowship with evil spirits that they seem to lose control of their lives.

    It also explains why Christians sometimes need to be delivered mostly from things that they have been involved in before salvation. We have to be willing to let go of the evil habits that we secretly harbor in order to get rid of them. Some Christians do not believe that Christians can be vexed with evil spirits, but the truth is that only Christians can be delivered and set free. My wife for example says that she was delivered from a spirit which named itself as “Hatred of being a woman†a couple decades ago. If we hang onto things not pleasing to God - often because we love them – than we can be vexed by evil spirits – it’s by our own will. The word says…

    Matthew 12:43-45 (NASB)
    "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places, seeking rest, and does not find it. [44] "Then it says, 'I will return to my house from which I came'; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. [45] "Then it goes, and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation."

    Does it take an act of their will to project their thoughts to us? It seems that we can only hear what they want us to hear. How this works in reverse I’m not sure. Jesus apparently spoke audibly…

    Matthew 4:2-4 (NASB)
    And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry. [3] And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread." [4] But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.' "

    Evil spirits - fallen angels are walking among us every day unseen. Their works are manifest everywhere and often are quite open for all to see.
  6. i tottally agree,i was bombarded with evil thoughts,i found jesus God and the holy spirit.the holy spirit passes on messages for me from jesus also keeps my mind sound by helping me dissmiss these thoughts as the rubbish they are.i have learned a lot and understand why people commit suicide,thinking to themselves this is not me or my mind and would rather die to rid these pretty level headed,understood they were false things to persicute me for going to jesus.that,s why i know about how bad news changes you get scared and avoid situations because of doubt bad news etc.waiting to leave.packed my bags waiting for my eternal holiday.:D
  7. is a city in uk named liverpool......loop..r...evil.eyes open:eek:
  8. Dear sc,
    Sorry, but I just can't bring myself to call you - you know what. It's just too derogatory and inappropriate for a Child of God. So if you don't want to give your first name OK - But please allow me to pick a temporary name that I will use. How about Abiron? my father is exalted. (Sorry I didn't check your Profile beforehand.)

    I think we should all speak positively with blessing to each other because our words are powerful. God is going to give all of us a new name someday.

    Yes, there is a lot of activity in the demonic realm and none of us can escape their presence. However, we cannot allow ourselves to give them an occasion to have "something in us."

    God said he would write his law in our hearts. So having the author of the law within us through the holy spirit we live the law automatically. Well not the ritual law, but the moral law, which includes the ten commandments. All of the law was based on two rules - Love God and love your neighbor. On this hangs all the law. We all know that.

    There is an aspect of keeping the law that no one seems to comment on very much. It is the legal aspect of doing wrong.

    1 Cor. 15:56 (NASB)
    The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law;

    This is a very, very important statement.

    Satan's authority and power over us is in the violation of the law. Every evil spirit must have a copy of the law (not the oral law) in his hip pocket or in memory because this is their rulebook. We can do wrong within ourselves because of our narcissism and self will and when we violate the law then Satan has a claim over us. If we love our sin then he will feed us more and more and finally get to a point where it dominates our thoughts and separates us from God's fellowship. And if fully saturated he can momentarily take over our bodies and commit some heinous crime by displacing our consciousness temporarily like I said previously.

    Actually, those who minister deliverance know this best and are actually Christian lawyers. They know that to deliver someone from the vexation of an evil spirit the person has to confess and renounce his sin or the enemy has a legal right to that person and refuses to go.

    There is an argument that says a Christian cannot have an evil spirit. This is not true. If a Christian has been into evil before or after their conversion and they love their sin, then the enemy has something in them. In fact only Christians who have renounced their sin and accepted Christ can be delivered. To try to deliver someone who is not a Christian is like filling a bucket with a big hole in the bottom. You have no legal right to do so. It is up to the will of the person to give God the authority to grant deliverance.

    Our old nature is like the pin oak in fall - a lot of the leaves hang on all through winter. In spring the new life pushes them off. Usually most of our bad habits and trespasses drop away, but in certain people and certain sins with deep roots they have to be dealt with specially. This is usually the exception and not the rule. II knew of a man that could not get free of alcohol and about two years ago he died rom it - he was in his late 40's or early 50's as I recall.

    The strength of Satan is the law.


    It reminds me of what Rick Joyner an International Prophet said years ago. He talked to an owner of a large hotel where Christian conferences were held. The owner was commenting on the large income generated from Porn video when these Christian conferences were held. Today, people can be involved in porn secretly on the internet in the confines of their house - so no one knows.

    If so - one gives Satan a legal claim on his life. Always accompanied by some degree of division or separation.
    It reminds me of one Evangelist that I knew from my youth who got into pornography secretly and being on the road most of the time it grew until he couldn't get out. He shot himself in the head with a 22 pistol and died three days later. I assume it was the guilt that drove him to despair. Satan's claim on us can reach addictive, controlling and even fatal proportions.

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